retired_4172257

france actually qualified, not scotland, so even though what your saying scotland had better universal tactics, they still lost in the end to the better teams

stop making france out to be a world super power, they were crap in the qualifiers just like us

retired_ashleypro21

do teams not win 15-0 and score every chance then ? </BLOCKQUOTE>

Not really. Usually 1-0 wins from what I recall. They're like the equivilant to the Blue Square in England. </BLOCKQUOTE>

I better start watching more games down in the blue square then if thats what we are judging by, thanks for your help..

retired_4172257

yeh, nobody is saying one off occurances can't happen, were detracting from the point, a good tactic isnt one thats lets the opposition miss countless one on ones and then have one shot and always score

but on champ man it is

rytm2323

No, a better example would be the ones Andy used, such as Greece winning Euro 04, or Scotland beating France, twice.

And I don't agree that Holland had rubbish defenders - their defence was on a par with the rest of the World Cup, and they only conceded one goal iirc before they got to the final. Not too shabby, eh?

retired_ashleypro21

Thats true, Domenech is an awful coach and their only current world class player is Ribery, Henry is breaking down,Thuram is old,Vieira is broken down, Diarra though I rate him at Arsenal is first choice for France and can't even make our first team.

rytm2323

I was going to point out that we're playing Football Manager, but thought the better of it in the end.

retired_abubaker

I never said once France were a world super power, I said they were technically superior to Scotland as you said tactics only really separate teams who are close on natural ability when Scotland are no where near as good as France but managed to beat them twice and was pointing out that tactics in those particular matches were the major factor. :thup:

rytm2323

Benzema looks quality as well tbf.

retired_ashleypro21

No, a better example would be the ones Andy used, such as Greece winning Euro 04, or Scotland beating France, twice.

And I don't agree that Holland had rubbish defenders - their defence was on a par with the rest of the World Cup, and they only conceded one goal iirc before they got to the final. Not too shabby, eh? </BLOCKQUOTE>
Suurbier,Krol and Haan aint too shabby !!

rytm2323

So basically, and what these IRL things show, is that it's not just enough to pick the best players. You need to have a bit of tactical nouse about you as well IRL.

The same goes for FM, I think you need to be able to alter your tactics slightly in order to stay on top. I think the ME can be improved and I hope it is improved over the coming years, but I don't think it's bugged at the moment. But it does need refining, but then SI never denied that as far as I'm aware.