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france actually qualified, not scotland, so even though what your saying scotland had better universal tactics, they still lost in the end to the better teams
stop making france out to be a world super power, they were crap in the qualifiers just like us
Originally posted by Skunner:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by tostao10:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Skunner:
Like Canadian soccer is even worth paying attention to.
do teams not win 15-0 and score every chance then ? </BLOCKQUOTE>
Not really. Usually 1-0 wins from what I recall. They're like the equivilant to the Blue Square in England. </BLOCKQUOTE>
I better start watching more games down in the blue square then if thats what we are judging by, thanks for your help..
yeh, nobody is saying one off occurances can't happen, were detracting from the point, a good tactic isnt one thats lets the opposition miss countless one on ones and then have one shot and always score
Originally posted by Genuine_quality:
holland didnt win the world cup because they had rubbish defenders, croatia probably have better players technically than england or at least some of them are, you are just using the english bias toward our own teams ability like any other nation
i think a better example would be in league format, the teams with the best players always win, and no matter how many permutations you had with slider bars for derby county they would still go down because there players are rubbish
No, a better example would be the ones Andy used, such as Greece winning Euro 04, or Scotland beating France, twice.
And I don't agree that Holland had rubbish defenders - their defence was on a par with the rest of the World Cup, and they only conceded one goal iirc before they got to the final. Not too shabby, eh?
Originally posted by Genuine_quality:
france actually qualified, not scotland, so even though what your saying scotland had better universal tactics, they still lost in the end to the better teams
stop making france out to be a world super power, they were crap in the qualifiers just like us
Thats true, Domenech is an awful coach and their only current world class player is Ribery, Henry is breaking down,Thuram is old,Vieira is broken down, Diarra though I rate him at Arsenal is first choice for France and can't even make our first team.
Originally posted by Genuine_quality:
france actually qualified, not scotland, so even though what your saying scotland had better universal tactics, they still lost in the end to the better teams
stop making france out to be a world super power, they were crap in the qualifiers just like us
I never said once France were a world super power, I said they were technically superior to Scotland as you said tactics only really separate teams who are close on natural ability when Scotland are no where near as good as France but managed to beat them twice and was pointing out that tactics in those particular matches were the major factor. :thup:
Originally posted by tostao10:
Thats true, Domenech is an awful coach and their only current world class player is Ribery, Henry is breaking down,Thuram is old,Vieira is broken down, Diarra though I rate him at Arsenal is first choice for France and can't even make our first team.
Originally posted by GillsMan:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Genuine_quality:
holland didnt win the world cup because they had rubbish defenders, croatia probably have better players technically than england or at least some of them are, you are just using the english bias toward our own teams ability like any other nation
i think a better example would be in league format, the teams with the best players always win, and no matter how many permutations you had with slider bars for derby county they would still go down because there players are rubbish
No, a better example would be the ones Andy used, such as Greece winning Euro 04, or Scotland beating France, twice.
And I don't agree that Holland had rubbish defenders - their defence was on a par with the rest of the World Cup, and they only conceded one goal iirc before they got to the final. Not too shabby, eh? </BLOCKQUOTE>
Suurbier,Krol and Haan aint too shabby !!
So basically, and what these IRL things show, is that it's not just enough to pick the best players. You need to have a bit of tactical nouse about you as well IRL.
The same goes for FM, I think you need to be able to alter your tactics slightly in order to stay on top. I think the ME can be improved and I hope it is improved over the coming years, but I don't think it's bugged at the moment. But it does need refining, but then SI never denied that as far as I'm aware.
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