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Old 01-13-2008, 05:21 PM   do you bother with training? Post #21
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<BLOCKQUOTE>or course it does
sorry but the player development is a farce </BLOCKQUOTE>

It what way?

I posted this in another thread but it seems to show that players can develop over time.

Brian aged 15
Brian aged 21
Brian aged 27
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Old 01-13-2008, 05:23 PM   do you bother with training? Post #22
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One of the first things i do when i take over at a club. New schedule for Keepers, Defenders, Defensive Mid, Midfielders, Attacking Mid and Strikers.

It's fairly obvious which sections you use for each position whilst i tend to keep the strength and stamina sections fairly similar for each position around the beginning of the medium with pre-season being higher.

It helps to tweak each schedule ever so slightly every now and then.
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Old 01-13-2008, 05:25 PM   do you bother with training? Post #23
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Quote:
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by SiDolman:
<BLOCKQUOTE>or course it does
sorry but the player development is a farce </BLOCKQUOTE>

It what way?

I posted this in another thread but it seems to show that players can develop over time.

Brian aged 15
Brian aged 21
Brian aged 27 </BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree players DO improve over time. Its just that 90% of everyone here expect to see instant results in a few months..its not like that anymore in Fm 08,(which I think is realistic) it takes years now.
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Old 01-13-2008, 05:28 PM   do you bother with training? Post #24
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Quote:
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by SiDolman:
<BLOCKQUOTE>or course it does
sorry but the player development is a farce </BLOCKQUOTE>

It what way?

I posted this in another thread but it seems to show that players can develop over time.

Brian aged 15
Brian aged 21
Brian aged 27 </BLOCKQUOTE>


You must've been well chuffed with him dafuge? :thup:
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Old 01-13-2008, 05:30 PM   do you bother with training? Post #25
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Training is still very important even the progress is slow down post 8.0.1.

You can "reshape" your players stats with training. For example turn some of the CA points from defensive attributes into attributes for your striker.
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Old 01-13-2008, 05:30 PM   do you bother with training? Post #26
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You'll only ever notice it in the long-term.
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Old 01-13-2008, 05:30 PM   do you bother with training? Post #27
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I agree players DO improve over time. Its just that 90% of everyone here expect to see instant results in a few months..its not like that anymore in Fm 08,(which I think is realistic) it takes years now.
That's the way it should be, players should generally peak at around 27, not in their late teens or early twenties. With previous versions you could work out how good a player would get very quickly, this is much better.
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Quote:
Originally posted by dafuge:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by SiDolman:
<BLOCKQUOTE>or course it does
sorry but the player development is a farce </BLOCKQUOTE>

It what way?

I posted this in another thread but it seems to show that players can develop over time.

Brian aged 15
Brian aged 21
Brian aged 27 </BLOCKQUOTE>

I just note that from your images, if "natural fitness" cant developed by training or age at all??
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Old 01-13-2008, 05:33 PM   do you bother with training? Post #29
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Quote:
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Joor:

I agree players DO improve over time. Its just that 90% of everyone here expect to see instant results in a few months..its not like that anymore in Fm 08,(which I think is realistic) it takes years now.
That's the way it should be, players should generally peak at around 27, not in their late teens or early twenties. With previous versions you could work out how good a player would get very quickly, this is much better. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Yea, it make much more sense now while player peak themselves at age 27 or so. However, with the developing curve post 8.0.1, you are almost impossible to get any Messi or Fabregas at the age of 18 or so.
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Old 01-13-2008, 05:34 PM   do you bother with training? Post #30
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Surely natural fitness by definition cannot change.
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