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Old 01-15-2008, 02:23 AM   Upgrading from XP to Vista? Any problems with FM? Post #21
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Hello all im a newbie to FM2008 and loving/hating it if you know what i mean. Can i just add that i have been using a clean install of an OEM vista home premium virtually since day one and i love it (in my opinion proper home built quality machines serve it better). FM2008 runs seemlesly with only one minor issue. Windows media centre opens when you quit the game, i think i can deal with that.
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Old 01-15-2008, 03:14 AM   Upgrading from XP to Vista? Any problems with FM? Post #22
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MC opens? WTF? How strange.

@ DJdeMarco for UAC, as opposed to turning off which can lead to problems later with permissions you can go to Admin Tools, Local Security Policy, and change the prompt for consent to auto elevate on user admin upgrade requests.

It shuts up UAC without the issues later - I agree it's a pain in the ass.
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Old 01-15-2008, 06:42 PM   Upgrading from XP to Vista? Any problems with FM? Post #23
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MC opens? WTF? How strange.

@ DJdeMarco for UAC, as opposed to turning off which can lead to problems later with permissions you can go to Admin Tools, Local Security Policy, and change the prompt for consent to auto elevate on user admin upgrade requests.

It shuts up UAC without the issues later - I agree it's a pain in the ass.
I actually don't mind UAC at all and am happy to leave it on. For me, it is one of Vista's best features (security-wise). I have my own PC sale/repair business and my customers (who have generally bought their PC's from the high-street), tend to turn off UAC completely (usually at the suggestion of a close relative who "knows about PC's") and then end up with all manner of problems.

Keeps me in a job but I feel frustrated for them as these days PC's tend to be sold without consideration for the user, by the seller.

I have built several Vista-based PC's for my customers (most of the PC's I build are still XP-based at the moment) and on each occasion, I have walked the customer through varying parts of the OS (including UAC and other changes from XP, explaining why these things are as they are, why they are important and how they should interact with them) as a standard part of my after-sales service.

Unfortunately, most retailers don't do that.

As I have said before, I think Vista will become a great OS in many ways, though I do feel Microsoft have overstepped far too many boudaries in telling users that they must have their PC connected to the internet at unspecified times or they will have their right to use their own PC removed.

Because of this, and many other reasons, I feel that it can cause too much frustration and instability to be considered as a sensible option, in its' current state, for any user that isn't PC-literate.

Thanks for the information on the Local Security Policy. It was something I was aware of but have never used as I don't mind UAC. Rather that than the alternative.

As an interesting tip if Vista ever does screw up and only give you access to a web browser, start the browser by clicking the option, select the File menu and choose open. Browse to Cwindows\ and double-click explorer.exe. Welcome back to the Vista desktop that previously (illegally?????) was denied to you.

The PC will still show as non-genuine (even though it is) on the desktop but you will get access to all of your data, should you need it. At this point, most programs will not run due to the restricted local policies enforced by this draconian piracy-protection method but there are ways, if you know what you are doing, to get around those issues too.

So all this piracy-protection does, is frustrate lesser-PC-educated users into buying it again as they think it is broken (which I have known happen several times). Those with a good working knowledge of the OS and a little ingenuity can blatantly get around it with very little difficulty.
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Old 01-15-2008, 10:13 PM   Upgrading from XP to Vista? Any problems with FM? Post #24
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Just throwing in my experiences here, got Vista Business Edition with 2.8Ghz processor (single-core), 1.5GB of RAM and 512MB X1650 Radeon graphics card.

FM2008 runs very smoothly on my machine as do pretty much all my other games. Good Luck with the update.

P.S. the whole "needing" a shed load of ram is a severe generalisation with Vista, theres a lot more to consider, you might just find that properly defragging the hard-drives will provide more speed than an extra stick of RAM when things get slow.

P.P.S DON'T rely on Vistas own defragmentation system it's pretty crappy, get a 3rd party one from a trusted source.
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Old 01-18-2008, 01:26 AM   Upgrading from XP to Vista? Any problems with FM? Post #25
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Perfectdisk has a nice 64/32 bit version.

I avoid Diskeeper since that's what the crappy MS one is based on.
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