SiDolman

How much do the other coaching attributes affect training like motivating, determination, man management, level of dicipline.

If a coach has 7 stars but his stats for the above stats are all 1, will he still be a good coach? In my opinion he would be rubbish (like a school teacher which knew the subject well but could not control the class), so why does he get 7 stars.

SWaRFeGa

Sounds like he would be a good coach, but only if you the player make the effort as well. Cos if you don't, then he wouldn't make the effort to motivate you or go one-on-one with you.

Klimowicz

your last line sums it up tbh. he would get a 7 if he has a defensive rating or 20, and have defensive style coaching, for example.

motivating and discipline are the stats i generally add to the seach for coaches. he would have the ability to get the best out of players using most or all of his ability.

isuckatfm

Here's my opinion on the star system in training. I have no knowledge of the game code and base this only on my own limited knowledge of programming so someone with more expertise may well read this and poke a thousand holes in my reasoning.

Writing code is all about not only what it does but how it does it. FM is essentially a huge spreadsheet involving thousands of calculations. The lower the number of calculations necessary at any given point to reach a desired outcome then the more efficiently the game will process. Basically less calculations equals less processing time.

Consider how the game theoretically (to reiterate I have no knowledge of the code but am making an educated guess) might use training within the player development model. Everytime the player development model has to calculate by how much a players attributes increase it has to reference the quality of the coaches and training facilities. If instead of continuously doing this, assign a star rating which is updated on a less regular basis. This value gets stored and is then referenced directly by the player development model. So instead of having to make say 10 calculations it only has to make 5 thus a faster processing time.

Based on this logic I have always assumed that the star rating is the key and have had no obvious problems with player development. Of course I could be completely wrong and the star system might be there just as a usability enhancement to make assessing training quality easier for the user.

Just my theory on it anyway

SiDolman

I really hope that this isnt the case

Vilosophe

Little OT.

Why is the stars system important only for human players ? The Ai teams (also big teams)have very poor coaches: in 2nd hungarian division I have better stars than Juventus...
To have the same result in training the human must have 7 stars against the 2/3 stars for AI.

isuckatfm

I've often wondered this myself. In my experience how players develop at AI controlled clubs appears to depend primarily on the club's reputation and the quality of training facilities (all other things being equal).

Maybe it's more efficient to not use the star system for AI clubs, similarly to how reputation has an effect on results when detail level is set to none? That is just me speculating though.

It would be nice to get a concrete answer from SI on this.

cudman

So do you reckon a coach with 10 motivating but 7 stars for a schedule would have worse results than a coach with 6 stars and 15 motivating?

pyewackett

In my opinion I don't believe that stars are a true indicator to the coaches 'real' talents more of a quick glance identifier.

Shall you have a list of potential scouts that you would like to aquire then you can base there abiltiy for PA and CA, you probably are better of drilling into the current values for there abilities, one would assume.

cudman

So do you reckon a coach with 10 motivating but 7 stars for a schedule would have worse results than a coach with 6 stars and 15 motivating?