retired_mmurillo05

At the start of my games i've had of late, I've only had a couple of dodgy coaches to begin with, so i ended up signing 7 or 8 before my first match so all departments have high star ratings. sadly, i flopped in all these games

in my new game at Barnsley though, i decided to only sign 3 new coaches and spread them out, so that the stars weren't that high (due to the coaches not focusing on a specific thing) and i don't know if it's conincidental or not, but it's working much better. in real life, i presume 7 or 8 new coaches would take alot of time to adjust to, but adding 3 or so would make it more easy. that's what i'm going with anyway..

retired_joycepr

So do you reckon a coach with 10 motivating but 7 stars for a schedule would have worse results than a coach with 6 stars and 15 motivating? </BLOCKQUOTE>

You raise a valid point, they both could be equally effective as each other.

Or the coach with the motivation @15 may get them all fired up, with the other coach at @10 may not get them all as all motivated.

Because he's not a great a motivator as the other @15 but even though he has x6 stars with the motivation skills higher would swing it for me. I may be mistaken its just my view, the stars are also a reflection on the level of experience maybe so maybe not. So you could have a National coach who has x7 stars. But really low skills in various training say 5-&gt; 10.

Where as a new up and coming coach who just hasn't had the chance yet not as many stars as an unproven, but is a motivator at 14, attacking coaching at 14, stars x2 who would you pick.

Maybe they all just balance out.

Smokey3957

So do you reckon a coach with 10 motivating but 7 stars for a schedule would have worse results than a coach with 6 stars and 15 motivating? </BLOCKQUOTE>

10 motivating as an example isn't that bad in comparason to the coaches i've seen in the game. anything below 10 will have less of an effect, its not the rating you have to think about more than it is the effect.

therefore, your example would probably be equal.

retired_echater

Sounds plausible to me

I'm willing to believe that motivating, man management and level of discipline stats only come into play for staff members that are managers in full-detail leagues. You might ask why SI bother giving each staff member these stats and displaying them....but goalkeepers have off the ball, work rate and teamwork statistics displayed...

I'd further surmise that player improvements at other clubs are entirely unaffected by their coaches' stats (instead being determined by facilities, level of football played and the manager's hardness of training stat, which would also affect average fitness levels and injury frequency)

retired_irean

HOW DO YOU SEE A COACHES STAR RATINGS?

retired_w0lfpack1

The opposite theory should hold equal validity:

The pre-calculation could still be done and stored internally as, say, a short int: 0-255.

When you look at the training screen, it might do a simple calculation like:
000-036 = 1 star
037-072 = 2 stars
073-108 = 3 stars
109-144 = 4 stars
145-180 = 5 stars
181-216 = 6 stars
217-255 = 7 stars

The difference between 216 and 217 would be miniscule in terms of its impact to the player's development .. but it would appear to give us a 7th star.

I don't think there's any way to tell without looking at the source code.

leftfoot

If I remember correctly you have mentioned that you are involved in the industry in previous threads so I bow to your superior knowledge

I've often thought this myself, namely:-

Motivating = how good they are at team talks
Man Management = how they respond to players complaining, deal with praising/criticising players in the media
Level of Discipline = the extent to which they fine/warn players for poor performances/red cards/missing training

I wonder to what extent people assume a level of complexity in this game that might not actually exist (for example does motivating affect how well a coach can coach). SI might claim these to be relevant factors as they would be in real life knowing there is no way anyone could ever figure it out without seeing the code, while in the code the game only references a single attribute relative to a particular situation to minimise processing times.

Conspiracy theorists unite

retired_w0lfpack1

I am, yes, but in this case all that means is that I'm wise enough to know that I don't know.

I'd actually been wondering the OP's questions, myself, and was hoping to see somebody give a definitive response in this thread.