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Old 01-15-2008, 05:21 PM   Play 'old-school' and succeed! Post #61
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I am absolutely not going to waste my time on such nonsense. Let whoever came up with this silly premise go ahead and prove it if they think they can. Real proof, not a handful of tries.
In fairness, in the space of a couple of days three people have posted on this thread having tried it and all produced similar results. So it may be a bit hasty to dismiss it as nonsense.

If the figures being posted are correct it would seem to make a very big difference.
Maybe in some way having highlights on makes the game generate more goal chances to fill the highlights (unlikely I know but whos to say not possible).
It would be very interesting if someone did do a thorough test on this.
Although it would seem to satisfy some people in here that test would need to be around 1000 games long!
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Old 01-15-2008, 06:08 PM   Play 'old-school' and succeed! Post #62
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<BLOCKQUOTE>If I play 10 games with my Blyth team using Croat's set of tactics, key highlights on, i get the bugged match engine - 25-35 shots, no goals opponent has 3 shots on target scores all 3.

If i reload, play with only commentary - not only do i have less shots, i can sore. the most amazing thing is, my striker will be one on one and shoot for the corners. This does not happen viewing highlights!
If you reload its not going to be the same conditions as your prevoius game. If you reload something else will happen different situations and variables come into play. Its not that simple to just say "ill try 10 games with match engine on" and then reload and "try 10 games with just commentary" do you people not understand this? Once you reload the game its not going to be the exact same game. There for this method is flawed... </BLOCKQUOTE>

Wakers I am simply stating the facts that a small sample based on this theory isn't enough. You seem to have completely misunderstood my point which is not surprising as you were too busy shouting "HELLO" and reading what you thought I said instead of actually paying attention and reading what I actually wrote.

"At what point will some of you blind people understand this? Stop defending the game, you are ruining it for those of us that want a truly realistic and bug free game."

What a stupid thing to say, I am sorry if we disagree with what you are saying and this somehow makes us blind (which is an idiotic statement to make by yourself). I wish you could practise what you preach and instead of coming out with stupid comments calling people who disagree blind you could be reasonable and add debate to the matter instead of stupid comments. Defending the game? At what point have I defended the game? All I have done is to simply say that if you or any other person run this test method by just reloading the game a couple of times that doesn’t make it a fair or proper test, it does need a bigger sample of tests to make sure all the variables are covered. If you can not accept this then I suggest you just carry on with your moronic “HELLO’s” at the start of your posts.
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Old 01-15-2008, 06:14 PM   Play 'old-school' and succeed! Post #63
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I would also like to state that before anyone jumps on any sort of bandwagon, I am ofc curoius to see if any effect this has. However I am at this point based on logic and facts at the moment sure that either use of the match engine or commentary has no real effect over any of the "too many shots and no goal" theory.
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Old 01-15-2008, 06:33 PM   Play 'old-school' and succeed! Post #64
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I would also like to state that before anyone jumps on any sort of bandwagon, I am ofc curoius to see if any effect this has. However I am at this point based on logic and facts at the moment sure that either use of the match engine or commentary has no real effect over any of the "too many shots and no goal" theory.
But you're still not reading the fact that i have played, over the last 2 days, 100 games to test this. At what point have i tested it enough???
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Old 01-15-2008, 06:45 PM   Play 'old-school' and succeed! Post #65
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Which is it? A while ago you said you have tried this method 20times. (10 with just commentary and 10 with match engine) Nows you have run this test 100 times over 2days? Hmmm.

Either way, I think really a full season with both methods if not longer would be a better way rather than just a sample of 10 games. I don't have all the answers I am simply just trying to help and debate on this matter. Ofc a larger sample will be needed to be well documented and as you have said it may be hard to prove your results etc Although I am sure something could be worked out.
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Old 01-15-2008, 06:51 PM   Play 'old-school' and succeed! Post #66
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Which is it? A while ago you said you have tried this method 20times. (10 with just commentary and 10 with match engine) Nows you have run this test 100 times over 2days? Hmmm.

Either way, I think really a full season with both methods if not longer would be a better way rather than just a sample of 10 games. I don't have all the answers I am simply just trying to help and debate on this matter. Ofc a larger sample will be needed to be well documented and as you have said it may be hard to prove your results etc Although I am sure something could be worked out.
Well if you go back and read my posts.. initially it was 20 games (10 games each played twice, you seem to struggle with this) and i was intrigued enough to play the set of ten games 5 times through using each method. Is there any wonder i get annoyed..
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Old 01-15-2008, 07:00 PM   Play 'old-school' and succeed! Post #67
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There you go again making snide comments because someone is questioning your method or you. Can you actually debate without becomming annoyed? I am not narrow minded but you seem to be quite narrow minded and anyone who questions your way or simply adds to the debate you don't like you attempt to insult them, how sad.

And you actually orginally stated that you only tried it once with commentary and then once with match engine. Then you stated you have tried both ways five times. You just seem to chop and change how you gone about it, maybe you should be alot clearer of your methods in prevoius posts and for future posts. Or are you going to get annoyed with my reply and simply attempt a sly instul or call me "blind"
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Old 01-15-2008, 07:12 PM   Play 'old-school' and succeed! Post #68
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Hopey, you just answered his post in the exact same way you accused him of behaving in previous posts. The simple fact is that there are a few people who believe the same problem exists in their game - and maybe somebody (with too much time) will be able use a season-long sample to try and crack this (i've noticed no difference myself).

The guy has an opinion, and he's right to get ratty, especially since most of the replies simply dismissed him.

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There you go again making snide comments because someone is questioning your method or you. Can you actually debate without becomming annoyed? I am not narrow minded but you seem to be quite narrow minded and anyone who questions your way or simply adds to the debate you don't like you attempt to insult them, how sad.

And you actually orginally stated that you only tried it once with commentary and then once with match engine. Then you stated you have tried both ways five times. You just seem to chop and change how you gone about it, maybe you should be alot clearer of your methods in prevoius posts and for future posts. Or are you going to get annoyed with my reply and simply attempt a sly instul or call me "blind"
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some people need to lighten up. IT'S A GAME!!!!
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Old 01-15-2008, 07:28 PM   Play 'old-school' and succeed! Post #70
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There you go again making snide comments because someone is questioning your method or you. Can you actually debate without becomming annoyed? I am not narrow minded but you seem to be quite narrow minded and anyone who questions your way or simply adds to the debate you don't like you attempt to insult them, how sad.

And you actually orginally stated that you only tried it once with commentary and then once with match engine. Then you stated you have tried both ways five times. You just seem to chop and change how you gone about it, maybe you should be alot clearer of your methods in prevoius posts and for future posts. Or are you going to get annoyed with my reply and simply attempt a sly instul or call me "blind"
I'm not going to debate with you because you can't seem to follow my posts in sequence, hence its pointless. If you read my posts in order, which i assume you are doing, its quite clear how I have tried it. I've explained it in full detail twice. its not my fault now if you can't understand it.
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