Mark86

If you reload its not going to be the same conditions as your prevoius game. If you reload something else will happen different situations and variables come into play. Its not that simple to just say "ill try 10 games with match engine on" and then reload and "try 10 games with just commentary" do you people not understand this? Once you reload the game its not going to be the exact same game. There for this method is flawed... </BLOCKQUOTE>

HELLO? How can you blind people continue to ignore what is written infront of you.. I will say again.

I have tried this now 5 thats (FIVE) 1, 2, 3, 4, 5!! times.

My procedure:

Play the same 10 games, 5 times over (play the block of 10, then reload) with key highlights on. In these ten games, EVERY SINGLE RUN THROUGH, I will suffer from the buggy match engine, where my strikers can do nothing but shoot straight at the goalkeeper 25 times in a match.

I then do the same, playing with only commentary. The results are CLEARLY Different. In these 50 games played with only commentary, there were about 3 times where the opposition only had 3 shots on target and managed to score 2/3 goals, and i had 25 on target and failed to score. Also, when viewing replays from these games, goals that i score frequently come from my strikers shooting for the corner of the goals.

When watching key highlights, roughly 25 (thats half) of my 50 games involved me bombarding the opponent and either not scoring or only scoring 1/2 goals, while the opposition scores with their only shot on target.

At what point will some of you blind people understand this? Stop defending the game, you are ruining it for those of us that want a truly realistic and bug free game.

To sum up - I have done this 5 times now! it does not matter that I only use 10 games and then reload, because there is such a CLEAR and OBVIOUS difference when it comes to switching between only commentary and watching the highlights.

retired_graduatestudent08

Me too. this is a very interesting thread. I have often consider my team give a better performance on comentary only but thoguht it was just a misconception.

retired_sesmith0116

All this talk of 'commentary only' takes me back to the days when I didn't have a computer and I used to go round to my mate's and longingly watch him play CM for hours on end.

Ahem... I was watching longingly at the game, you understand!

Then we got a computer and I got CM97/98. And I've never looked back.

retired_krissyski

Not ignoring it. Just saying you haven't proven that the phenomenon you are seeing isn't normal variance in gameplay, which is why you DO need a large sample size.

Besides, there is no logical reason why one or another mode of viewing a match would tilt the outcome either for or against you. After all, once the match starts, there is no way for the AI to "know" which team is the human participant. This has been stated REPEATEDLY by SI staff over the years in the context of the "evil AI" myth, of which this is just one more amusing variation.

My advice - play how you want to play. If you really think setting to "Commentary Only" gives you an advantage, enjoy! But please don't insult our intelligence by trying to fob it off on us as fact.

retired_krissyski

You also haven't shown that your in-game decisions are consistent across both modes.

Mark86

Try it for yourself then. Don't sit there and fob it off as being made up without trying it yourself.

It certainly is not a myth. Si at first tried to claim that there was no shots to goal issue..that was a myth until enough complained about it!

I am of course making the same decisions each time i do this, I know how to do scientific tests.

Now I will play a single game 20 times in each mode. Play it, save it, reload it, change match view, play it again. I will make the same decisions each match, where possible, and come back with the results.

retired_krissyski

I am absolutely not going to waste my time on such nonsense. Let whoever came up with this silly premise go ahead and prove it if they think they can. Real proof, not a handful of tries.

retired_abbsolue

I think it stands to reason that as there is a major problem with the match engine (certainly on patch 8.0.1, haven't noticed it so much going back to 8.0.0) with this 1v1 issue (and those going "it's your tactics!" till you're blue in the face, even si have admitted a problem), anyway it stands to reason if you turn off the engine and go back to commentary only this bug goes away.

Oh and I think 10 games (over a 1/4 of the season), is more than enough time to prove a point, especially as it happened in 10/10 times.

But hey, there's none so blind as them that wo't see...

Mark86

especially when they're so bias that they are afraid to try it themselves for fear of what they may find..

Mark86

You know, I was thinking of making a journal of the procedure I've taken - when I realised there's no catagorical way that I can prove which matches I did with only commentary and which i did with highlights

I could still do it, but I just know gunnerfan and his naysaying ilk will tell me there's no way to prove which is which, and they'll be right.