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Originally posted by gunnerfan:
8 matches would not be an appropriate sample size. At a minimum, you would have to run the season several times for both Commentary Only and 2-D. That's because every time you play a season, you will have varying results simply by chance (for example, if you were to play a match, quit without saving, reload, play the match, quit without saving, etc, etc, you would not see the same match played out the same way repeatedly). I would think that, to get any kind of statistical certainty, you would need to run the season about 30 times each way.
I'm not suggesting you do this. I wouldn't be bothered unless I had a viable theory as to what, specifically, might change in the game engine between Commentary Only and 2-D, and why.
The only thing I can think of is what Ackter said earlier - your reaction to the game may change based on what you see on the screen.
No thats rubbish - its pretty clear to see that things are different even after 10 games if you run them all again.
I'm using a tactic that i would have 35+ shots on goal per game and not score a single goal when i watched highlights. I switched to commentary without reloading, and guess what, i had no more than 20 shots during a game and i could score easily, also i wouldn't concede to my opponents only shot on target.
I then reloaded the game, used highlights only, match engine buig came back.
Reloaded again, used only commentary from the start, no bug!
No thats rubbish - its pretty clear to see that things are different even after 10 games if you run them all again.
I'm using a tactic that i would have 35+ shots on goal per game and not score a single goal when i watched highlights. I switched to commentary without reloading, and guess what, i had no more than 20 shots during a game and i could score easily, also i wouldn't concede to my opponents only shot on target.
I then reloaded the game, used highlights only, match engine buig came back.
Reloaded again, used only commentary from the start, no bug!
Never took statistics in school, did you?
Your sample size is way too small, because you don't know if the differences you saw in play were the result of an actual problem, or simply due to chance variations in game play. The patterns that you describe are possible across a wide variety of game situations - in fact, I have had similar experiences using ONLY 2-D.
To test for statistical validity, you would need a large enough sample size so that you could see how much variation there was in game play within Commentary only and within 2-D only, and then see if there was significantly greater variation between the two groups.
Also, I have yet to hear a plausible explanation as to why there would be any difference in gameplay between the two - other than what in another time and place would be called superstition.
I'll always watch the match engine because I could have a really amazing result and/or performance, or a really terrible one, but without the match engine, I won't be able to see why it happened.
Originally posted by JR866Gunner:
ive started to do it old skool except i have goal highlights on aswell so my matches dont take quite so long to get through!
ive breen using this way since fm07 and its worked well for me. i wouldnt say i was flying but i havent had half the shots to goal ratio problems as everyone else seems to have
Originally posted by gunnerfan:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Wakers:
No thats rubbish - its pretty clear to see that things are different even after 10 games if you run them all again.
I'm using a tactic that i would have 35+ shots on goal per game and not score a single goal when i watched highlights. I switched to commentary without reloading, and guess what, i had no more than 20 shots during a game and i could score easily, also i wouldn't concede to my opponents only shot on target.
I then reloaded the game, used highlights only, match engine buig came back.
Reloaded again, used only commentary from the start, no bug!
Never took statistics in school, did you?
Your sample size is way too small, because you don't know if the differences you saw in play were the result of an actual problem, or simply due to chance variations in game play. The patterns that you describe are possible across a wide variety of game situations - in fact, I have had similar experiences using ONLY 2-D.
To test for statistical validity, you would need a large enough sample size so that you could see how much variation there was in game play within Commentary only and within 2-D only, and then see if there was significantly greater variation between the two groups.
Also, I have yet to hear a plausible explanation as to why there would be any difference in gameplay between the two - other than what in another time and place would be called superstition. </BLOCKQUOTE>
Hello, yes i did actually. We don't know a plausable reason, we didn't make the game.
But look - you don't need a huge sample to CLEARLY see a difference!
If I play 10 games with my Blyth team using Croat's set of tactics, key highlights on, i get the bugged match engine - 25-35 shots, no goals opponent has 3 shots on target scores all 3.
If i reload, play with only commentary - not only do i have less shots, i can sore. the most amazing thing is, my striker will be one on one and shoot for the corners. This does not happen viewing highlights!
It happens EVERY single time i try it. I do not need to run a whole season. There is a huge, and OBVIOUS difference when switcing between commentary only and key highlights.
I've tried it 5 times now, every time the same result. OPEN YOUR DAMN EYES and stop blindly defending the game by arguing about insignificant little points.
If I play 10 games with my Blyth team using Croat's set of tactics, key highlights on, i get the bugged match engine - 25-35 shots, no goals opponent has 3 shots on target scores all 3.
If i reload, play with only commentary - not only do i have less shots, i can sore. the most amazing thing is, my striker will be one on one and shoot for the corners. This does not happen viewing highlights!
If you reload its not going to be the same conditions as your prevoius game. If you reload something else will happen different situations and variables come into play. Its not that simple to just say "ill try 10 games with match engine on" and then reload and "try 10 games with just commentary" do you people not understand this? Once you reload the game its not going to be the exact same game. There for this method is flawed...
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