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Old 01-13-2008, 10:11 PM   Play 'old-school' and succeed! Post #21
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Originally posted by BobbyB123:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by ifllorescu:
This is easy to check.

You can tick the option in setting which says something to the effect: reset the random seed when reloading the game. Then save the game right before a game starts.

Play the game on 2D record the stats. Then quit and replay the same game "old school". Compare the stats. They should be the same if the 2D does not make a difference.
Well no , because certain factors can change the course of a game. For example an early goal , injury / sending off , and substitutions. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Surely, an early goal is created by the random seed which is the same in every game. Thus, both would give the same early goal in exactly the same minute.

Setting the seed for the pseudo random number generator in Mathlab C or whatever language you use to write your code would result in the same numbers being generated every time.

However, I do not know about random events and stuff (outside the match engine). That is why one needs to save right before the start of the game and use the same exact players and tactics.
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Old 01-13-2008, 10:21 PM   Play 'old-school' and succeed! Post #22
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Nope, wouldn't happen like that. Will be a different match every time.
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Old 01-13-2008, 10:27 PM   Play 'old-school' and succeed! Post #23
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Nope, wouldn't happen like that. Will be a different match every time.
:thup: :thup:
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Old 01-13-2008, 11:22 PM   Play 'old-school' and succeed! Post #24
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Ackter:
Nope, wouldn't happen like that. Will be a different match every time.
:thup: :thup: </BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually it would happen like that. If only there would be a way to restart with the same random seed.

I apologize for posting before checking. I looked and there is no easy way to reset the seed. I must have thinking about the Fifa Manager game which I believe has an option like that.
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Old 01-13-2008, 11:33 PM   Play 'old-school' and succeed! Post #25
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Back in CM 06~ the only way I could win was by running around the room pretending to be Eric Cantona blasting imaginary footballs into the back of an imaginary net. Nowadays, after 12 or so years of playing it from the age of 7, I don't have to resort to such cheating (except in european cup finals).
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Old 01-13-2008, 11:56 PM   Play 'old-school' and succeed! Post #26
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Commentary only has been suicidal for me since FM2007, just seem to get turned over to easy
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Old 01-14-2008, 12:46 AM   Play 'old-school' and succeed! Post #27
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Ackter:
Nope, wouldn't happen like that. Will be a different match every time.
:thup: :thup: </BLOCKQUOTE>

There is a program that you can use so it will play out the exact same scenario each time. Somebody on here did a test with it a while back to see how much effect Team Talks have on an outcome, using that, you could play the game in 2d match engine, then replay the match doing the EXACT same things "old school" and see what the outcome will be...
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Old 01-14-2008, 12:23 PM   Play 'old-school' and succeed! Post #28
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I don't know if there is any difference between watching the 2d or just the commentary.

For me I only ever watch the commentary as that's what I grew up doing and I still think its a million times better than the 2d engine.
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Old 01-14-2008, 12:51 PM   Play 'old-school' and succeed! Post #29
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Originally posted by niktheblade1:
Bobby B... what you must ask yourself is...

If your feelings are that this is a pointless thread, why did you

a. read it
b. respond to it, to tell everyone that you think it is a pointless thread.

If someone thought enough about it to post a thread, then it must not have been pointless to them, respect peoples opinions rather than tainting this forum with beratings of other users.

Many thanks
he had to read it first to decide it was pointless.
if he hadn't read it then his view would have meant nothing.

and the fact he responded has nothing to do with whether its a pointless thread or not
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Old 01-14-2008, 12:52 PM   Play 'old-school' and succeed! Post #30
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Quote:
Originally posted by BobbyB123:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by niktheblade1:
Bobby B... what you must ask yourself is...

If your feelings are that this is a pointless thread, why did you

a. read it
b. respond to it, to tell everyone that you think it is a pointless thread.

If someone thought enough about it to post a thread, then it must not have been pointless to them, respect peoples opinions rather than tainting this forum with beratings of other users.

Many thanks
Berating - yea ; whatever.

Its like saying watching the TV with the sound turned off is going to change what happens in the program. It reduces your understanding of whats going on , but it doesn't change whats going on. </BLOCKQUOTE>

wahey for new analogys :thup: lets put the car one to bed now
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