retired_sesmith0116

Actually, a lot of people who deny that it happens are exactly the kind of FM stalwarts who have played the game for yonks and would never reload.

And you can't say it should never happen. It DOES happen in real life!

retired_klm81

These were the same chances, with the same tactics that were working brilliantly in the 1st half of the season though :thdn:

retired_mudassar007

the sad thing is I love the game, I just get depressed with the game play, and also the ammount of mouses I have smashed up due to seeminly 'normal' runs of results.

retired_ComfyRest

Why you say this should never happen?
I'm a Anderlecht fan and i seen my team irl lose some games in the past they totally dominated.
I also seen them sometimes win such games.
Did you read my previous post?
I gave enough reasons why this can happen and how to handle them.

retired_mudassar007

again show me a run of results in real life where it has happened mike!!! remember home team conversion of 4% away 85% 3 games in a row, not on this planet with the stats i showed.

retired_sesmith0116

Manchester United 0-0 Reading
Portsmouth 1-1 Manchester United
Manchester City 1-0 Manchester United

United had far more shots in those games, especially the last. Okay, so two were draws. But it still shows that you can dominate a run of games and still not get the hoped-for results.

retired_mudassar007

RSCA4Ever: yeah I read it, but thats not the problem, I keep on tope of concerns as I know this could affect the team, they are creating chances with better players than the opposition but losing games, someone said shoot from different areas?? you mean changing to long shots and crossing from different areas, I have tried all this, the goals to shots ratio is wrong, I should just sign other teams strickers as the seem to score with a couple of chances, plus they are crappier than mine so will be cheaper.

Godfearer

It is possible that you will find a tactical combination that beats the engine , nobody denies that, 2 days ago i beat Arsenal 8-0 playing Larisa (fm07 and i did have a decent squad with many CA +150 players ) , finish 1st in Greek championship with 28 wins and 2 draws and reach CL semifinal(losing to man utd because half of my players were in their national teams playing friendlies...) .
It took me 1 full year to find that a tactic with 4 flat back 3 MCs and 3 STs beats the engine but give it a thought , nobody on the planet plays like that , the purpose of the game is not to beat the engine , right?
What the 3 STs do is that when one of the side ones enter the area GK closes one side of the post then my striker passes to the other side and get my other ST alone with the net, or take a rebound if GK saves ... cheap trick if you ask me capitalizing on the fact that GKs rarely hold the ball and almost always send it to the center of the box when they block shots . Again this is a hole in the AI.
I use 2 DMs and an AM (with marking skills) as MCs to win the ball and feed it directly to the front men using "down both flanks" (the "side" STs are AML/ST-AMR/ST with dribbling and crossing skills+arrows pointing out) , if those 3 mid fielders have any decent speed it is very very hard for any AI team to penetrated my midfield , not to mention that using full backs (because of their speed) as CDs causes the funny engine reaction " Losing ball in the midfield-Long pass up front-Fast deep defending CDs clear the ball easily".
I am not writing all that in the purpose of a tactical lesson (after all this is not my tactic i just tweaked a friend's one and it is not played in fm08 ), what i want to show is a series of cheap tricks without any realism that take advantage of engine's holes (or the way AI plays) to win games.
A dedicated player after a crapload of games will be able to read the engine despite opposition tactics but why the hell any gamer would do all that? and how the feck playing something totally absurd and without any logic can be called "simulation" ?
Wouldn't it be better to spend 2 hours RTFM and then set up a regular 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 or whatever be the best team in the pitch and win games? or be the worst team in the pitch and lose ?
Being the best and not winning because you don't have the time or the mental strength to sit down play 1000's of games and read what AI can do and what it can not is just annoying.

retired_shahzadmasih

Ah ignore list, I was hoping for hunt down and kill list but nevermind!

retired_shahzadmasih

Again I think the match engine really struggles to show you a visual reprensentation of what is and isnt a good chance.