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Old 01-16-2008, 03:07 PM   FM 2008 crap Post #11
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Yes this happens me all the time,sometimes having 20 shots on target and winning 1 nil.Just the other day I played Everton and had 18 shots on target with rooney,eto and tevez up front and lost 1 nil to everton even though it was there second shot of the game in the very last minute...BASTARDS
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Old 01-16-2008, 03:10 PM   FM 2008 crap Post #12
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by NepentheZ:

Erm, yes it is about tactics.

I used to be under the impression i was being ripped off, i was having 30+ shots, 15+ on target and 0 or 1 goals. The CPU had 3/4 shots and scored 3/4 goals. I read the Tactics forum in depth, and tweaked a few things on my tactics, and now i have 18-25 shots, but score 3+ goals nearly EVERY game. I still concede a lot, but thats because i have a very attacking formation, and a shoddy defense to boot. I suggest you guys heed what i learned in the tactics forum, as it will make your FM experience a lot more enjoyable.
Ok so to play the game i need to go in tactics forum and read a crapload of pages in order to understand how i can beat the engine, thank you for the info.
+30 shots should score 10 goals minimum despite tactics , players or anything. </BLOCKQUOTE>

So you are under the impression teams IRL score 1 every 3 shots no matter what? You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. And no, you dont have to go and trawl through 100 pages to get a good tactic, thats just what i chose to do. You can just as easily spend weeks and weeks developing your own, finding out exactly how to work the tactic yourself

30+ shots, doesn't happen regularly IRL, admittedly, but 1 goals every 3 shots NEVER happens game on game on game. And with a tweak of your tactics, 25+ shots returning 3 goals a game im sure will make you happy, so yea, maybe you should go into the tactics forum...
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Old 01-16-2008, 03:10 PM   FM 2008 crap Post #13
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masteR+_+ I aint just taking 3 games into account, I am using these 3 games to show the flaws in FM 2008, if you can show me a sequence of 3 results like I had in football history ill eat my words, the game is flawed and every year gets worse, this aint just me, look at the reviews on web sites selling it.
The previous three Liverpool games prior to the Middlesboro game at the weekend.

Man City V Liverpool Liverpool 19 attempts 8 on target sover 0-0.

Liverpool V Wigan Liverpool 21 attempts 8 on target score 1-1

Luton V Liverpool Liverpool 12 attempts 5 on target score 1-1.
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Old 01-16-2008, 03:11 PM   FM 2008 crap Post #14
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Na I am not buying it, I have downloaded all these tactics online and tried them, people boasting about winning this and that league, played the tactic and had the same result, and tweak, I have tweaked that much I should be called Rafa.
Downloading a tactic is NOT the answer.!!!!

Someone had a winning tactic with THEIR set of players, not yours. YOU need to develop your own tactic. You wonder why you are struggling, when all you are looking for is a quick fix to win? May aswel use FMM or the Editor mate :thup:

Its not a sprint, its a marathon...
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Old 01-16-2008, 03:12 PM   FM 2008 crap Post #15
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The whole essence of FM is that it is a simulation of a real life sport (football). The idea is that it is set up to give the gamer enjoyment by replicating the football world. But the realism ends at the point where the real players are included in the database along with the real teams.

The idea of all games is to understand the 'mechanics' of the game to achieve the best results. You don't complain when playing an army simulation that the Germans win your game of World WarII as this is an achievable outcome from the 'game', no game claims to repeat real life, it wouldn't be any fun if games did this as you'd know what to expect before you started playing.

With FM08 as NepentheZ has stated you need to tweak your tactics to suit your players to enable them to react as the game expects them to to achieve the results, and for every game it is different.

Once you master the techniques for setting up tactics appropriately, using the opposition instructions (which IMHO is they key) and team talks accordingly then the results will follow.

But as with real life don't expect everything to happen to the form book. Happily FM08 replicates the unpredictability of football nicely, thank you...
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Old 01-16-2008, 03:15 PM   FM 2008 crap Post #16
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but 1 goals every 3 shots NEVER happens game on game on game.
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TEAM /GAME /SHOTS/ SHOOTS on TARGET /SCORE
Aberdeen 1 18 7 0
Falkirk 1 2 1 1

Aberdeen 2 15 9 1
St Mirren 2 3 2 2

Aberdeen 3 23 11 1
Kilmarnock3 4 4 3
Look what the AI did
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Old 01-16-2008, 03:15 PM   FM 2008 crap Post #17
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SI THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS.!!

Ok, so i've just played away from home against one of the better teams, Portadown.

I had,....

22 Shots, 11 on target 4 goals.

they had.....

20 shots, 10 on target 1 goal.

When will this be fixed please, its ruining my game
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Old 01-16-2008, 03:19 PM   FM 2008 crap Post #18
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totally disagree, I am not jumping in here looking for a quick fix, I am talking after months playing, tweaking tactics I have done for all the previous FM's, but ever new edition gets further from reality, this is not just me saying this, go read the reviews, just because you think you have mastered it, the majority think its crap, the whole package looks good but the game play is getting worse, I understand the world of football is not straight cut but show me 3 sets of results as above and ill agree, not what your saying roberto, im talking about oppostion stats.
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Old 01-16-2008, 03:22 PM   FM 2008 crap Post #19
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How many more of these threads do we need in GQ.

This really should be in the bugs forum, there is a dedicated thread on this issue in there & you can upload your save games for the testing team to look at in regards to a fix.

Also I recall Paul.C coming onto the forum a while pack stating that the way shots are calculated had been changed & yes they messed up put it is being looked into.
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Old 01-16-2008, 03:24 PM   FM 2008 crap Post #20
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well nepenthez we can only dream about being as good as you eh!
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