How to make wingers work?

retired_tamara3047 · 02-13-2007, 06:40 AM

I found the best way to work this tactic is if you have the players and maybe play more narrow. Instead of focus down the wings - try to imagine your formation or watch your match engine and you'll see that your'e telling everyone to boot it up to your wingers - focus through the middle or mixed. then you can take advantage of the pockets of space your wingers have and with the right tempo and widtch and passing you can have nice little triangles. You can score some really attractive goals but your central midfielders have to have the work rate and positioning to do it. Also I prefer to keep my forward runs on rarely and creative freedom on high as it lets them cut inside more and take advantage of the space they have. Finally avoid too much running with the ball as it will cause you all kinds of problems, the chief being that classic run to the byline, get trapped, play it off the fb for a corner. Remember that wingers can help you a lot in terms of finding the right angles and exploiting space. When you focus attackng down the isolated wings what you're asking is for your fullback and winger to play roy of the rovers type of football.

IRL, it's sort of like David Ginola at Tottenham a few years back. He would sometimes latch onto long balls and run himself into the corner or cross it to the opponent. He was a good dribbler, and produced some nice moves, but I think Tottneham won nothing but a Worthington Cup in the process. But I digress...try no fr, mixed rwb, ttb, mixed crossing, and focus down through middle or mixed

retired_angel_ica · 02-13-2007, 09:10 AM

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Originally posted by Contexx02:
I found the best way to work this tactic is if you have the players and maybe play more narrow. Instead of focus down the wings - try to imagine your formation or watch your match engine and you'll see that your'e telling everyone to boot it up to your wingers - focus through the middle or mixed. then you can take advantage of the pockets of space your wingers have and with the right tempo and widtch and passing you can have nice little triangles. You can score some really attractive goals but your central midfielders have to have the work rate and positioning to do it. Also I prefer to keep my forward runs on rarely and creative freedom on high as it lets them cut inside more and take advantage of the space they have. Finally avoid too much running with the ball as it will cause you all kinds of problems, the chief being that classic run to the byline, get trapped, play it off the fb for a corner. Remember that wingers can help you a lot in terms of finding the right angles and exploiting space. When you focus attackng down the isolated wings what you're asking is for your fullback and winger to play roy of the rovers type of football.

IRL, it's sort of like David Ginola at Tottenham a few years back. He would sometimes latch onto long balls and run himself into the corner or cross it to the opponent. He was a good dribbler, and produced some nice moves, but I think Tottneham won nothing but a Worthington Cup in the process. But I digress...try no fr, mixed rwb, ttb, mixed crossing, and focus down through middle or mixed

Thanx a lot,

could you explein me why i should give my wingers fwr-mixed-rwb-mixed and crossing-mixed ( not often?) And what do you think it is good idea to take off farows wingers in my 433

sorry for english

retired_corellian · 02-13-2007, 09:13 AM

sorry i registred as my brother. So coulkd you explein me? Anyone else have idea how to set up amr/l?

retired_tamara3047 · 02-13-2007, 09:35 AM

give them mixed but do pay attention to their decisions. Remember that for these positions you need very good creativity, off the ball, and decisions. too often of rwb will result in him losing the ball, getting fouled, or running into a corner. Too many forward runs means offside calls and also the player ending up in an isolated position. With both you can produce very nice football but only if it's used in moderation. The same is said for crossing. If it's on often he'll be looking to do it all the time, resulting in mismatches. in this kind of formation, who do you want heading the ball? Most of the time people will play with a tall striker in the middle but the only other options are either an AMC running late into the box, or your other winger. It's hard to find a good header or player in that position who is strong enough to win those headers.

That's why I like to give the wingers enough equal options so that they don't rush into the corners.

As for the farrows, I find that it results in them being too far from the ball (action) and therefore the only ways they will get the ball is from a long, direct pass. Inevitably, those passes are easy to be intercepted or result in the attack breaking down.

I hope that was a bit more clear.

retired_corellian · 02-13-2007, 10:31 AM

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Originally posted by Contexx02:
give them mixed but do pay attention to their decisions. Remember that for these positions you need very good creativity, off the ball, and decisions. too often of rwb will result in him losing the ball, getting fouled, or running into a corner. Too many forward runs means offside calls and also the player ending up in an isolated position. With both you can produce very nice football but only if it's used in moderation. The same is said for crossing. If it's on often he'll be looking to do it all the time, resulting in mismatches. in this kind of formation, who do you want heading the ball? Most of the time people will play with a tall striker in the middle but the only other options are either an AMC running late into the box, or your other winger. It's hard to find a good header or player in that position who is strong enough to win those headers.

That's why I like to give the wingers enough equal options so that they don't rush into the corners.

As for the farrows, I find that it results in them being too far from the ball (action) and therefore the only ways they will get the ball is from a long, direct pass. Inevitably, those passes are easy to be intercepted or result in the attack breaking down.

I hope that was a bit more clear.

Contexx02

i understand. Thanx a lot. But look for the tactic crazy gra. I uploaded it, becouse i want to know how to set up wingers, so in his tactic wingers has farows and have often fwr and rwb, so it is not efective?

retired_BrownVanilla · 02-13-2007, 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by fg:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Contexx02:
give them mixed but do pay attention to their decisions. Remember that for these positions you need very good creativity, off the ball, and decisions. too often of rwb will result in him losing the ball, getting fouled, or running into a corner. Too many forward runs means offside calls and also the player ending up in an isolated position. With both you can produce very nice football but only if it's used in moderation. The same is said for crossing. If it's on often he'll be looking to do it all the time, resulting in mismatches. in this kind of formation, who do you want heading the ball? Most of the time people will play with a tall striker in the middle but the only other options are either an AMC running late into the box, or your other winger. It's hard to find a good header or player in that position who is strong enough to win those headers.

That's why I like to give the wingers enough equal options so that they don't rush into the corners.

As for the farrows, I find that it results in them being too far from the ball (action) and therefore the only ways they will get the ball is from a long, direct pass. Inevitably, those passes are easy to be intercepted or result in the attack breaking down.

I hope that was a bit more clear.

Contexx02

i understand. Thanx a lot. But look for the tactic crazy gra. I uploaded it, becouse i want to know how to set up wingers, so in his tactic wingers has farows and have often fwr and rwb, so it is not efective? </BLOCKQUOTE>

It can be effective, thats obviously how he wants his wingers to play, but for different people and different formations the wingers require different settings.

retired_cindymerc · 02-13-2007, 12:27 PM

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Originally posted by Benoit2:
Been working some more on it, but Im just getting so fed up with it, you know? In real life, I could just tell my players how I expect them to play. In the game, I have to fiddle with tons of sliders in the hope that everything combined works the way I want. But it doesnt. Not yet anyway.

I noticed when I played direct, wide and quick with pass down wings both winger where involved a lot more, even with farrows to AML/AMR position because the passes are long down the wing. ala premiership
You'd think an obvious option such as "play down the flanks" would already cover the biggest part. But it doesnt. I can play short, I can play slow, I can give them little creative freedom, but they still insist on playing it to my striker, who is central and further up the pitch and marked more then my wingers, then to play it DOWN THE FLANKS with SHORT passes. Really infuriating. And no, my striker is not set as a target man.

Just finished another match. Both wingers had one run past opponent. That just makes me sad.

retired_cindymerc · 02-13-2007, 12:32 PM

sorry post above should say i got my wingers more involved by playing direct, quick and wide as well as pass down both flanks. Because passes are longer it reaches wingers on the wing a lot more.

Imagine this, if u play shor to winger he has to do 1-2 or short pass to break from marker, but a direct ball-through from full backs will give space they need.

retired_monica90 · 02-13-2007, 12:39 PM

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Originally posted by Badboy500:
sorry post above should say i got my wingers more involved by playing direct, quick and wide as well as pass down both flanks. Because passes are longer it reaches wingers on the wing a lot more.

Imagine this, if u play shor to winger he has to do 1-2 or short pass to break from marker, but a direct ball-through from full backs will give space they need.

Yeah, I played this style in a brief Newcastle game and Dyer/Duff were my stand-out performers with their wing play.

retired_rjw13838 · 02-13-2007, 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by Badboy500:
sorry post above should say i got my wingers more involved by playing direct, quick and wide as well as pass down both flanks. Because passes are longer it reaches wingers on the wing a lot more.

Yup, figured that out a while ago. Been using it to great effect since :thup:

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How to make wingers work?