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Old 07-14-2004, 11:47 AM   Loan Wages Post #11
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If I paid loan players, it would just make me bitter when they turned out to be uncommitted, untalented wasters. So, it's probably best not to. I loan my players out to lower clubs for free too though, so that balances the universe out the way I see it.
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Old 07-14-2004, 07:31 PM   Loan Wages Post #12
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My first tuppence worth for a while...

I don't tend to pay loanees - for the reasons above, experience etc etc... as for my players going on loan, I take what's offered - its more important for me to either get back the more experienced player, or boost his profile in order to offload the donkey when he gets back.

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Old 07-14-2004, 07:57 PM   Loan Wages Post #13
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When giving players experience, are we just talking the younger players though?

Would you say after a certain age there is not much expereince in playing for your club? For the younger players in the higher deivisons then the experience is vital, but what about a 26yo player. Would the same rules still apply, or would you offer some of his wages?

I would. Thoughts?
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Old 07-14-2004, 08:43 PM   Loan Wages Post #14
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In Germany, there was only last year an interesting case about it.

A Czech guy, 27 years old, and very talented (according to the blonde Czech angel even more talented than him) from Leverkusen was loaned to Hannover (his former club) for absolutely free. Reason for this was that he was absolutely unsettled, and they hoped that by loaning him back to his former club he might overcome his personal problems. Unfortunately, he didn't, and went back to Czech Republic, so they terminated the contract. He signed now for Sparta Prague for free, and Leverkusen gets a share on the transfer fee should he be sold somewhere else within the next 3 years.
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Old 07-15-2004, 01:20 PM   Loan Wages Post #15
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Wortley:
My first tuppence worth for a while...

I don't tend to pay loanees - for the reasons above, experience etc etc... as for my players going on loan, I take what's offered - its more important for me to either get back the more experienced player, or boost his profile in order to offload the donkey when he gets back.

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April 2003 :eek:

At least Church will reach his Brody before he dies...
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Old 07-15-2004, 01:49 PM   Loan Wages Post #16
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I would not bet on that, still well over 100 posts to go yet.
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Old 07-15-2004, 07:03 PM   Loan Wages Post #17
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mkus:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Wortley:
My first tuppence worth for a while...

I don't tend to pay loanees - for the reasons above, experience etc etc... as for my players going on loan, I take what's offered - its more important for me to either get back the more experienced player, or boost his profile in order to offload the donkey when he gets back.

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April 2003 :eek:

At least Church will reach his Brody before he dies... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

] to you too ya poof.

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Old 08-03-2004, 08:41 AM   Loan Wages Post #18
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Don't call me 'slow-answer-giver', as this is obvious

To the topic. Here in Russia the following scheme is usual (though keep in mind there are actually 3 divisions here - premiership, first and low-rated second).

Some big-team (ok, big in our scale) purchases some player for lots of money. Usually foreigner at this time. He starts to play in starting 11. Does ok. Native guy played in that position before him gets out of strarting 11, and only hopes to be a regular subber. He still gets his wages though.

Then, some club from a lower division sees the stuff and asks to loan him. That player could well have wages compared to the total wages of 1st division team. So the sides agree on that there won't be any wage coverage. Instead, there's a loan price agreed, and everything goes fine for both of them (and CM also allows this sort of things).

To think deeper, those a quite different things. Re-arranging wages is a sort of 'lower expedintures' optimization, and getting loan pay is a sort of 'increase incomes' optimization. And this stuff is also implemented in CM. First thing will reduce your expedintures, while second will add to incomes and transfer funds.

Though 'no-wage-and-loan-pay' is a bit extreme for me. Except when the guy badly needs some real-game experience, but lower divisions offer no greater challenge than casual reserves competitions. Maybe only useful to make a guy more mentally developed. Say, in his team he's no more than one of 20-30, and being loaned out to a lower side he'll have to perform as a possible leader, which could well have some positive effect on him.

Me never gets loan-ins and use income increasing policies on loan-outs.
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Old 09-21-2004, 06:06 PM   Loan Wages Post #19
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I see no problem not paying the wage (or any portion of it) of a player brought in on loan, if I can get away with it. It is realistic, as many of the above examples prove, plus I don't mind squeezing whatever I can out of those bigger clubs!

First post in a long time...
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>originally posted by Comrade Raspberry:
First post on this subject in a long time... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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