chris51

Would it be realistic to assume that cash-strapped Real Life LLMs might be tempted to use Football Manager (or predecessors) to scout/search for players that their real life scouts might never get the chance to see because their Travelcards only go to zone 6? If so, (you know where this is going don't you) blah blah blah Spawn of Satan etc.
Discuss please. Please note that I am not advocating this, I'm just interested (as an LLM newbie) to hear what more experienced LLaMas thought about this.

iajafer

Chris, this isn't an LLM thread by any stretch of the imagination but since we're in the pre-FM2005 hiatus I'll allow it to continue meantime.

Any post boosting or rubbish from the regular post-boosters will result in some draconian OTF-style banning.

jcb23

Hmmm. Do real life LLMs play CM by LLM rules?

I used to take a quick look at the in-game CM stats of new players that Norwich signed to see if they were any good (for Norwich that is, not for my game, ofc).

I've seen some higher level teams sign players and wonder if they've been scouting from CM. There was a suggestion that a particularly dire Dutch ML a former manager (also of N. Ireland and Ipswich) signed without ever seeing play himself was signed on the basis of CM. He certainly wasn't any good IRL.

turnip

I always wondered whether Big Ron might have heard of CM back then. A few of his signings in the latter days of his managerial career sounded familiar at the time...

As for Real Life LLMs, well, I suppose it's not unlikely. SI's scouting resources pooled together are probably on a par with large clubs. Maybe FM combined with a quick trip down the M1.

seamus

I presumed it was common knowledge that the lower tiers weren't researched very well for the game...did they ever find a Leigh RMI researcher for one?

chris51

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jcb23:

I've seen some higher level teams sign players and wonder if they've been scouting from CM. There was a suggestion that a particularly dire Dutch ML a former manager (also of N. Ireland and Ipswich) signed without ever seeing play himself was signed on the basis of CM. He certainly wasn't any good IRL. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

This type of thing is what I am getting at.

It might be the case that LLMs are not playing like real life LLMs at all. If they did, they might use CM/FM to scout for players. Which is one up for the LLMs IMO.

I can just see Kenny Jackett at Swansea, holed up in the boot room with his frayed tracksuit, mug of tea in his hand, laptop plugged into the double adaptor (kettle in other one), scouring the country for 'the next wonderkid' on his FM Gold Demo.

Iajafer - sorry if this topic contravenes the house rules. I can't understand why that should be though. Maybe I need to live here for a while to get it.

Cobbler

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>you know where this is going don't you <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Erm no not really

chris51

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cobbler:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>you know where this is going don't you <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Erm no not really <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well...if real life LLMs might be tempted to use FM/CM to scout/search for players instead of using the SWYCT ideal due to lack of wonga or scouting nouse, then maybe...maybe followers of the LLM ideal are lauding an ideal which is not entirely practised in real life. In other words, a bit of a Wizard of Oz scenario.

seamus

I think you should've closed this to start with Ian...I'm even more confused now...

*there's no place like home, there's no place like home, there's no place like home...

chris51

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by chris51:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Cobbler:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>you know where this is going don't you <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Erm no not really <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well...if _real life_ LLMs might be tempted to use FM/CM to scout/search for players instead of using the SWYCT ideal due to lack of wonga or scouting nouse, then maybe..._maybe_ followers of the LLM ideal are lauding an ideal which is not entirely practised in real life. In other words, a bit of a Wizard of Oz scenario. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

or (whispers) <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> is there a case for unscrupulous LLMs to draw the curtains, turn off all the lights and use the player search every now and again <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Please note..I'm not advocating this in any way. I like the idea of this infinite ramadan. It's kind of cleansing.