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Old 01-18-2008, 01:40 AM   One rule for us and another for the AI. Post #11
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I dont see this is a problem because you choose to play the game the most difficult and perhaps most realistic way but the AI doesnt so they can sign these players.
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Old 01-18-2008, 01:42 AM   One rule for us and another for the AI. Post #12
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That's a fair point :thup:.
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Old 01-18-2008, 01:46 AM   One rule for us and another for the AI. Post #13
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Last question - is it possible that their attributes are unmasked, for some reason?

For example, an experienced player at the end of a Premiership career might be considered high enough Reputation that he's no longer fog-of-warred?

Now, that many players with that kind reputation moving to Northern Ireland sounds like a problem in its own right .. but at least it wouldn't be a scouting issue!
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Old 01-18-2008, 01:59 AM   One rule for us and another for the AI. Post #14
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Well there is something unrealistic going on there. Plenty of former English youth players end up in Northern Irish football, usually at a slightly older age (24,25) when they've failed in England.I know my local club Larne have signed a few in the last couple of years. So etheir they do go to watch players in England (not that expensive but not being professional or employing scouts per se I doubt they do) or managers and coaches use their own knowledge to offer players trails and eventully contacts. Larne has had players that actully lived in Scotland and England whilst playing for the club. If you want realism I don't think only using scouts is the way to at this level.
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Old 01-18-2008, 07:44 AM   One rule for us and another for the AI. Post #15
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That LLM rule regarding not using the player search screen is stupid.

I mean, what's the point of having scouting knowledge if you can't use it? That's what the player search screen represents - scouting knowledge.

Sure there's no register of unemployed players IRL but every club has a body of knowledge based on their non-playing staff and all it takes is to keep up-to-date with sports news websites to know which players are available. It's like that IRL, it should be like that in the game too.
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Old 01-18-2008, 10:06 AM   One rule for us and another for the AI. Post #16
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Originally posted by Snoweel:
That LLM rule regarding not using the player search screen is stupid.

I mean, what's the point of having scouting knowledge if you can't use it? That's what the player search screen represents - scouting knowledge.

Sure there's no register of unemployed players IRL but every club has a body of knowledge based on their non-playing staff and all it takes is to keep up-to-date with sports news websites to know which players are available. It's like that IRL, it should be like that in the game too.
It'e not completely realistic I grant you, but it's a damn sight more realistic than having players from the likes of Turks & Caicos Islands, Barbados, and any plethora of small nations on the other side of the World in your scouting knowledge when you are a lowly manager of a Conference South team and have no foreign staff.

Now THAT is stupid.
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Old 01-18-2008, 10:56 AM   One rule for us and another for the AI. Post #17
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Snoweel:
That LLM rule regarding not using the player search screen is stupid.

I mean, what's the point of having scouting knowledge if you can't use it? That's what the player search screen represents - scouting knowledge.

Sure there's no register of unemployed players IRL but every club has a body of knowledge based on their non-playing staff and all it takes is to keep up-to-date with sports news websites to know which players are available. It's like that IRL, it should be like that in the game too.
It'e not completely realistic I grant you, but it's a damn sight more realistic than having players from the likes of Turks & Caicos Islands, Barbados, and any plethora of small nations on the other side of the World in your scouting knowledge when you are a lowly manager of a Conference South team and have no foreign staff.

Now THAT is stupid. </BLOCKQUOTE>

I have found that will happen when you have a player/or staff member that has a split nationality, or has played for a foreign team at some point in their careers, thus they have a small knowledge of that country, thus giving you a few player to potentially sign. No problems there i dont think.
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Old 01-18-2008, 11:07 AM   One rule for us and another for the AI. Post #18
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I'm pretty sure lists of players released from Premiership clubs exist in real life. Getting in touch with these players' agents and offering them a trial is hardly rocket science either! Whether it is "realistic" or not that they would sign for Northern Irish clubs is another matter, but I tend to find this is a problem generally with an active league picking up loads of such players, esp. if the English league itself is not active.

I stopped visiting the LLM forum because they work with a fairly fixed idea of what is "realistic" whereas I prefer to use my own idea of realism.
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Old 01-18-2008, 11:49 AM   One rule for us and another for the AI. Post #19
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I have found that will happen when you have a player/or staff member that has a split nationality, or has played for a foreign team at some point in their careers, thus they have a small knowledge of that country, thus giving you a few player to potentially sign. No problems there i dont think.
If it only happened in that instance then I would agree with you.

Unfortunately it happens even when a club has not a single foreign member of staff of any sort.

The search engine for FM08 is a significant improvement on FM07 but is still a long way off reality.

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Not everyone in LLM plays the game in exactly the same way and some are more "flexible" in terms of realism than others.

Yo each their own though.
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Old 01-18-2008, 12:53 PM   One rule for us and another for the AI. Post #20
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That LLM rule regarding not using the player search screen is stupid.

I mean, what's the point of having scouting knowledge if you can't use it? That's what the player search screen represents - scouting knowledge.

Sure there's no register of unemployed players IRL but every club has a body of knowledge based on their non-playing staff and all it takes is to keep up-to-date with sports news websites to know which players are available. It's like that IRL, it should be like that in the game too.

When a player is released the FA circulates their details to every club. Ditto transfer listed players.
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