retired_2symonds

There aren't that many ideas that are dismissed like that though except for things like hooliganism, offering bungs and stuff like that. When discussing an idea we'll often take the positives out of it if it isn't very good and it sometimes becomes a good idea after discussing it.

Just because we aren't interested in implementing something at this time (for whatever reason) doesn't mean that is going to be the case in the future.

Like Miles said, there are eyes everywhere and it would be pretty silly to open up and let the whole world know what we are (or aren't) working on for the next version of the game.

retired_mellie1746

SI, why not set up a pre-determined survey on your website.

You could ask for the user to login meaning just one vote per user. Then make it clear that the results will not be shown but will be used by SI for future development purposes.

I'm sure game players would be happy to complete the survey if they felt their opinions mattered and could influence future game direction.

As far as I'm concerned you have nothing to lose and so much to gain from doing this.

I expect a cheque in the post...

retired_RedRobin

Alternatively they could set up a general discussion forum so that people can put their ideas forward and everyone discusses the good points and bad points.

Oh, wait... they have.

Even in it's current state, this forum is much better than a poll with no qualified opinions or reasoning.

retired_mellie1746

Valid point Playmaker, but I still think SI could learn a lot from it. These forums get bombarded everyday with new topics and points.

Sometimes it can help to have some more concise feedback.

Both methods have merits, I'd suggest a combination of the two. I wasn't suggesting they just look at the survey in isolation.

retired_jasonkt

Well you can sense the trully good (and in the same regard the trully awful) ideas simply from the number of rerplies a topic gets. The better an idea, the more responses it gets and the more likely hood that it stays on the first page of the forum and catches the attention of someone from SI when they visit the forums.

Dont forget, some of the SI staff started out as fans before working at SI. Ter for instance used to just do skins for the old CM's and was a member on the forums before he was an employee.

I think he has just been promoted from Tea Boy to Vending Machine now

love you really Ter

retired_Balanchinegal

Again, thank you for the reply.
Miles pretty much cleared up the obvious for me. (I couldn't see the wood for the trees)

retired_2symonds

I used to have my own website as well and made CM3 menubars and background packs as well as playing the game every chance I got

I wish we had a vending machine

Crazydude

I used to have my own website as well and made CM3 menubars and background packs as well as playing the game every chance I got

I wish we had a vending machine </BLOCKQUOTE>

And I remember waiting patiently for the Ter's latest product! Was it really as far back as CM3, I am getting old!

But to the actual thread itself. The idea of a poll or whatever is nothing new, it gets brought up around every six months and Miles' and Ter's rationale for not not doing one is quite sound. Why give competitors an inkling of what you are going to be including next. Now to be fair to competitors, I am sure they are already going through the forums and pulling out the various ideas that people have suggested, much like the guys at SI are, so whilst you won't get a poll, the good ideas (not the barking nonsense suggested by some) will get discussed. Undoubtedly competitors will also pick up on the good, we all just hope they implement the bad!

Regarding the comment, that the game should be freshened up, cos looking at the same screens every incarnation, well go back to CM1 through to the 2d engine, and then see what you think. And we were as addicted than as we are now. Graphically the game has moved way forward since then, and I think I am right in saying, that at the introduction of the 2d engine, people were clamouring for the ability to "play" the game, something that SI have consistently refused to do, as FM would become yet another arcade game, and that's not what it is.

My tuppence worth, for what it's worth. Oh Ter, any chance of some new Ter skins?

retired_lexrog221

If I can suggest something its important to have playability. Its better that there are a little bit more good regens then less.

I would be very happy with less bugs and less new features. And also more indepth financial stats without becoming a joke I don't want to sell hotdogs.

But I want to know where all the money goes to and how it evolves trought the years.

retired_lexrog221

We could also make a poll that is only viewable for SI.