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01-22-2008, 06:25 PM
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ATTRACTIVENESS Post #31 | | Newb
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Originally posted by IRA-1916:
I was looking for educated answers from honest people
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That's rich.
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01-22-2008, 06:26 PM
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ATTRACTIVENESS Post #32 | | Joe Blow
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Originally posted by williamshankley:
Dalglish Lou Macari that Charlie fellow that ended up at Arsenal
Even Fergie left to fulfil his ambitions
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Fergie ? I dont know of any fergie who celtic have sold to a club down south. Check your facts matey.
Anyway what do Derby know about football ? We sold our crappest player to you for £3mil a season after we signed him for free |
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01-22-2008, 06:26 PM
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When money wasn't a factor and you had to bring up young players from your academy, Celtic were the first british team to win it. That was before rich foreigners buy clubs and spend silly money on players.
| Since you bring the topic up (although from the sound of your replies so far I guess I can't expect a sensible response) what happened to Celtic's great youth system? Sure money is prevelant nowadays in world football, but if 11 lads from Glasgow could win the European Cup back in 1967 (I think) why can't the same thing happen nowadays? I refuse to believe that there aren't 11 kids living in Glasgow who, with the right training, couldn't go out there playing for Celtic and do well in Europe.
That isn't a criticism of Celtic, just a general gripe I have. So many clubs complain about a lack of money or that they can't compete in the transfer market so why don't they really put money into their youth systems and bring through those players like Celtic did all those years ago. Sure football has changed, but a football team isn't that many people - I wish I had more control over my youth system in FM to focus the club's money on getting those local kids in and training them up to have a team of 11 Geordies or 11 Glasgwegians or whatever it may be instead of always having to sign players because the youth systems aren't good enough.
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01-22-2008, 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by IRA-1916:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by IRA-1916:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by williamshankley:
You only have to look at his user name and see the word IRA to understand why he has anti views
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And no I dont support the child murdering morons that call themselves the IRA. But I sympathise with a people like ourselves who are defending their country against a foreign aggressor. But this has nothing to do with FM so I dont want to talk about it. You wouldn't understand anyway. </BLOCKQUOTE>
Obviously I wouldn't understand! Funnily enough there is so much of a sense of hatred among anyone but scottish in your posts that you are not far from the IRA yourself
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01-22-2008, 06:30 PM
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Originally posted by IRA-1916:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by williamshankley:
Dalglish Lou Macari that Charlie fellow that ended up at Arsenal
Even Fergie left to fulfil his ambitions
| Thats the best you can come up with. Three players we have sold in 30 odd years. Hardly a feeder club. We got the british transfer record for dalgleish. Macari was pish and Charlie was puting too much Charlie up his snout and had to go.
Fergie ? I dont know of any fergie who celtic have sold to a club down south. Check your facts matey.
Anyway what do Derby know about football ? We sold our crappest player to you for £3mil a season after we signed him for free  </BLOCKQUOTE>
Fergie still left the scottish league
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01-22-2008, 06:36 PM
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ATTRACTIVENESS Post #36 | | Newb
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Originally posted by glamdring:
<BLOCKQUOTE>When money wasn't a factor and you had to bring up young players from your academy, Celtic were the first british team to win it. That was before rich foreigners buy clubs and spend silly money on players.
| Since you bring the topic up (although from the sound of your replies so far I guess I can't expect a sensible response) what happened to Celtic's great youth system? Sure money is prevelant nowadays in world football, but if 11 lads from Glasgow could win the European Cup back in 1967 (I think) why can't the same thing happen nowadays? I refuse to believe that there aren't 11 kids living in Glasgow who, with the right training, couldn't go out there playing for Celtic and do well in Europe.
That isn't a criticism of Celtic, just a general gripe I have. So many clubs complain about a lack of money or that they can't compete in the transfer market so why don't they really put money into their youth systems and bring through those players like Celtic did all those years ago. Sure football has changed, but a football team isn't that many people - I wish I had more control over my youth system in FM to focus the club's money on getting those local kids in and training them up to have a team of 11 Geordies or 11 Glasgwegians or whatever it may be instead of always having to sign players because the youth systems aren't good enough. </BLOCKQUOTE>
This is something that I believe is now happening more in Scotland - mainly due to the fact that they have little money to spend on players rather than any great foresight.
Celtic have one of the best development programs now for boys aged 5 and upwards. I know because despite some of my family being Rangers supporters, my son plays for the Celtic under 7s. You always need a good figurehead for the youths and Celtic have this in Tommy Burns. I have to say that the standard of coaching is excellent - as are the facilities. So, although they know he would rather eventually play for Athletico Madrid, they are (as am I) glad that he trains and plays with them in the meantime.
Unfortunately, few others teams have anything like it (only really St. Johnstone, and Aberdeen). And despite Rangers' superb academy facilities, I have yet to hear of any similar development programs at such a young age.
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01-22-2008, 06:37 PM
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ATTRACTIVENESS Post #37 | | Joe Blow
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Originally posted by glamdring:
<BLOCKQUOTE>When money wasn't a factor and you had to bring up young players from your academy, Celtic were the first british team to win it. That was before rich foreigners buy clubs and spend silly money on players.
| Since you bring the topic up (although from the sound of your replies so far I guess I can't expect a sensible response) what happened to Celtic's great youth system? Sure money is prevelant nowadays in world football, but if 11 lads from Glasgow could win the European Cup back in 1967 (I think) why can't the same thing happen nowadays? I refuse to believe that there aren't 11 kids living in Glasgow who, with the right training, couldn't go out there playing for Celtic and do well in Europe.
That isn't a criticism of Celtic, just a general gripe I have. So many clubs complain about a lack of money or that they can't compete in the transfer market so why don't they really put money into their youth systems and bring through those players like Celtic did all those years ago. Sure football has changed, but a football team isn't that many people - I wish I had more control over my youth system in FM to focus the club's money on getting those local kids in and training them up to have a team of 11 Geordies or 11 Glasgwegians or whatever it may be instead of always having to sign players because the youth systems aren't good enough. </BLOCKQUOTE>
At last an educated response.
Celtic have easily one of the best youth systems in Britain. we have opened a new state of the art academy last month and currently our best player (McGeady) and our captain (McManus) both graduated through the ranks.
That would be a good Idea for future FM editions if you could have more control over youth systems. I would like that too. I am sorry to anyone except shankly that has been offended by my comments. You wouldn't like it if your club with massive potential is forced to play in a sh1tty league and then you come on to forums and listen to ****** derby fans spouting pish. When was the last time they won the EPL.
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01-22-2008, 06:37 PM
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ATTRACTIVENESS Post #38 | | Newb
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Originally posted by IRA-1916:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by williamshankley:
You only have to look at his user name and see the word IRA to understand why he has anti views
| If a country invaded england would you not stand up for your country ? </BLOCKQUOTE>
Indiscriminatingly blowing up innocent men, women and children as they go about their daily business is not standing up for your country. It is terrorism.
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01-22-2008, 06:39 PM
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ATTRACTIVENESS Post #39 | | Joe Blow
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Originally posted by Hawshiels:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by glamdring:
<BLOCKQUOTE>When money wasn't a factor and you had to bring up young players from your academy, Celtic were the first british team to win it. That was before rich foreigners buy clubs and spend silly money on players.
| Since you bring the topic up (although from the sound of your replies so far I guess I can't expect a sensible response) what happened to Celtic's great youth system? Sure money is prevelant nowadays in world football, but if 11 lads from Glasgow could win the European Cup back in 1967 (I think) why can't the same thing happen nowadays? I refuse to believe that there aren't 11 kids living in Glasgow who, with the right training, couldn't go out there playing for Celtic and do well in Europe.
That isn't a criticism of Celtic, just a general gripe I have. So many clubs complain about a lack of money or that they can't compete in the transfer market so why don't they really put money into their youth systems and bring through those players like Celtic did all those years ago. Sure football has changed, but a football team isn't that many people - I wish I had more control over my youth system in FM to focus the club's money on getting those local kids in and training them up to have a team of 11 Geordies or 11 Glasgwegians or whatever it may be instead of always having to sign players because the youth systems aren't good enough. </BLOCKQUOTE>
This is something that I believe is now happening more in Scotland - mainly due to the fact that they have little money to spend on players rather than any great foresight.
Celtic have one of the best development programs now for boys aged 5 and upwards. I know because despite some of my family being Rangers supporters, my son plays for the Celtic under 7s. You always need a good figurehead for the youths and Celtic have this in Tommy Burns. I have to say that the standard of coaching is excellent - as are the facilities. So, although they know he would rather eventually play for Athletico Madrid, they are (as am I) glad that he trains and plays with them in the meantime.
Unfortunately, few others teams have anything like it (only really St. Johnstone, and Aberdeen). And despite Rangers' superb academy facilities, I have yet to hear of any similar development programs at such a young age. </BLOCKQUOTE>
Cheers Hawshiels :thup: Mon the Scotland.
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01-22-2008, 06:40 PM
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ATTRACTIVENESS Post #40 | | Registered User
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Originally posted by IRA-1916:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by glamdring:
<BLOCKQUOTE>When money wasn't a factor and you had to bring up young players from your academy, Celtic were the first british team to win it. That was before rich foreigners buy clubs and spend silly money on players.
| Since you bring the topic up (although from the sound of your replies so far I guess I can't expect a sensible response) what happened to Celtic's great youth system? Sure money is prevelant nowadays in world football, but if 11 lads from Glasgow could win the European Cup back in 1967 (I think) why can't the same thing happen nowadays? I refuse to believe that there aren't 11 kids living in Glasgow who, with the right training, couldn't go out there playing for Celtic and do well in Europe.
That isn't a criticism of Celtic, just a general gripe I have. So many clubs complain about a lack of money or that they can't compete in the transfer market so why don't they really put money into their youth systems and bring through those players like Celtic did all those years ago. Sure football has changed, but a football team isn't that many people - I wish I had more control over my youth system in FM to focus the club's money on getting those local kids in and training them up to have a team of 11 Geordies or 11 Glasgwegians or whatever it may be instead of always having to sign players because the youth systems aren't good enough. </BLOCKQUOTE>
At last an educated response.
Celtic have easily one of the best youth systems in Britain. we have opened a new state of the art academy last month and currently our best player (McGeady) and our captain (McManus) both graduated through the ranks.
That would be a good Idea for future FM editions if you could have more control over youth systems. I would like that too. I am sorry to anyone except shankly that has been offended by my comments. You wouldn't like it if your club with massive potential is forced to play in a sh1tty league and then you come on to forums and listen to ****** derby fans spouting pish. When was the last time they won the EPL. </BLOCKQUOTE>
More recently than you last won the european cup
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