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Old 10-13-2007, 03:18 PM   Team mentality Post #1
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Team mentality.

Here is my understanding of team mentality.

This slider is different to all the rest, because it has 22 different settings.

For me it says everything the TEAMS MENTALITY

So how do we know what the team’s mentality is? Here is how,

You have 11 players (that’s a shock to most of you) all with an option of forward runs,
Forward runs tells you how attacking/defensive your team is,
Here is the numbers, 0=RARELY 1=MIXED 2=OFTEN,
So here is an example,

Gk forward runs rarely = 0
Dr forward runs often = 2
Dl forward runs often = 2
Dc forward runs often = 0
Dc forward runs often = 0
Mr forward runs often = 2
Mr forward runs often = 2
Mc forward runs often = 2
Mc forward runs rarely = 0
Fc forward runs often = 2
Sc forward runs often =2

Thus giving us a team mentality of 14

So to give your team all out attack would mean all players with forward runs on often, and to get ultra defensive, all players would have forward runs rarely.
I hope this helps a few people out there.
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Old 10-13-2007, 07:58 PM   Team mentality Post #2
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Your assumptions could be a nice idea, but I think you need to complete some experiments.

Thanks for your opinion, I'll think about it.
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Old 10-13-2007, 08:04 PM   Team mentality Post #3
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In general the amount of players making forward runs, has an impact on how offensive/defensive your team plays.

But making a mathematical formula of it, is a waiste of time. Think football not numbers when making tactics.
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Old 10-13-2007, 09:04 PM   Team mentality Post #4
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Originally posted by alienpale:
Your assumptions could be a nice idea, but I think you need to complete some experiments.

Thanks for your opinion, I'll think about it.
cheers mate i've tested with manchester united i never lost blyth sp lost 1 darlington lost 1 so i'm more than happy
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Old 10-13-2007, 10:34 PM   Team mentality Post #5
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good idea but it will require testing. i am willing to help you- do you have any other theorems to support this?
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Old 10-16-2007, 08:21 AM   Team mentality Post #6
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Originally posted by pele10:
Team mentality.

Here is my understanding of team mentality.

This slider is different to all the rest, because it has 22 different settings.

For me it says everything the TEAMS MENTALITY

So how do we know what the team’s mentality is? Here is how,

You have 11 players (that’s a shock to most of you) all with an option of forward runs,
Forward runs tells you how attacking/defensive your team is,
Here is the numbers, 0=RARELY 1=MIXED 2=OFTEN,
So here is an example,

Gk forward runs rarely = 0
Dr forward runs often = 2
Dl forward runs often = 2
Dc forward runs often = 0
Dc forward runs often = 0
Mr forward runs often = 2
Mr forward runs often = 2
Mc forward runs often = 2
Mc forward runs rarely = 0
Fc forward runs often = 2
Sc forward runs often =2

Thus giving us a team mentality of 14

So to give your team all out attack would mean all players with forward runs on often, and to get ultra defensive, all players would have forward runs rarely.
I hope this helps a few people out there.
Gk forward runs rarely = 2
Dr forward runs often = 2
Dl forward runs often = 2
Dc forward runs often = 2
Dc forward runs often = 2
Mr forward runs often = 0
Mr forward runs often = 0
Mc forward runs often = 0
Mc forward runs rarely = 0
Fc forward runs often = 0
Sc forward runs often = 0

Thus giving us a team mentality of 10

If I played this I would be slaughtered. This takes no account of the player position

I'm not a fan of slider formulas, all they do is attempt to make the world seem nice by making the numbers fit. I would suggest thinking more about where you want your players to be position themselves on the pitch.
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Old 10-16-2007, 08:49 AM   Team mentality Post #7
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Ok let's try and keep things simple here...in my opinion you're not going to get some mathematical link or some indication of that sort.

Mentality is simply this.."goes to extract from another thread*

Basics of mentality - Simple and Effective

There are only 4 settings for mentality you need to remember...
1. Ultra defensive
2. Defensive
3. Norma
4. Attacking
5. Gungho

That's it..now take all the numbers and shove them aside. Understand what each one of them means.

1. My duty is to defend all the time, I will not take part in an attack and I will maintain the shape. I will stay behind the ball when possible. If the ball is not in my danger area I will hold my position.

2. Defensive
My duty is to defend, attacking is not a priority unless the team is already in an advanced attacking position. When we lose the ball, my immediate priority is to defend

3. Normal
I have to support my defense at all times and also support the attack. I take up a central role in support and will be guided more by my decisions, where the ball is and the instructions my manager gives me. If he tells me to make FWR I will do so when a good chance makes itself available. I will also try to keep possession of the ball as much as possible and prod the defense.

4. Attacking.
I spend most of my time, attacking, defending is not a priority unless the ball is near my defensive line, then I will drop back. If the ball is out of my defensive line, I will maintain a forward attacking position.

5. Gungho,
I will attack at any opportunity, my passes are always forward and I'm willing to take more riskier chances with passes.

That's how I think when I set up mentality. I decide which player needs to behave in that pattern and go accordingly. Forget the 6 and the 8 and the 2 and the 17. I for one find that disconcerting. Always remember that mentality guides positions and risk. Attack is attack, defend is defend.
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Originally posted by rashidi1:
Ok let's try and keep things simple here...in my opinion you're not going to get some mathematical link or some indication of that sort.

Mentality is simply this.."goes to extract from another thread*

Basics of mentality - Simple and Effective

There are only 4 settings for mentality you need to remember...
1. Ultra defensive
2. Defensive
3. Norma
4. Attacking
5. Gungho

That's it..now take all the numbers and shove them aside. Understand what each one of them means.

1. My duty is to defend all the time, I will not take part in an attack and I will maintain the shape. I will stay behind the ball when possible. If the ball is not in my danger area I will hold my position.

2. Defensive
My duty is to defend, attacking is not a priority unless the team is already in an advanced attacking position. When we lose the ball, my immediate priority is to defend

3. Normal
I have to support my defense at all times and also support the attack. I take up a central role in support and will be guided more by my decisions, where the ball is and the instructions my manager gives me. If he tells me to make FWR I will do so when a good chance makes itself available. I will also try to keep possession of the ball as much as possible and prod the defense.

4. Attacking.
I spend most of my time, attacking, defending is not a priority unless the ball is near my defensive line, then I will drop back. If the ball is out of my defensive line, I will maintain a forward attacking position.

5. Gungho,
I will attack at any opportunity, my passes are always forward and I'm willing to take more riskier chances with passes.

That's how I think when I set up mentality. I decide which player needs to behave in that pattern and go accordingly. Forget the 6 and the 8 and the 2 and the 17. I for one find that disconcerting. Always remember that mentality guides positions and risk. Attack is attack, defend is defend.

cheers mate :thup:
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