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Old 01-21-2008, 12:45 PM   Cannot keep a Clean Sheet Post #1
 
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Hi

I am playing as my beloved Manchester City.

I Favour a 4-4-2 approach

I am currently 2nd in premier league only 2 points behind the scum (utd, lol) - pretty good goal scoring record but i cannot keep a clean sheet.

I have tried not touching the tactics, tried adjusting the attack.defence leverl - tried playing defensive counter attack, tried bringing on extra defensive players - tried time wasting

I have my 2 centre backs on close down only in own area - low creativity - i have a DM who always closes down but rarely gets forward But i just cannot keep clean sheet - any tips would be greatly appreciated
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Old 01-21-2008, 01:04 PM   Cannot keep a Clean Sheet Post #2
 
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I share your pain mate.
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Old 01-21-2008, 04:26 PM   Cannot keep a Clean Sheet Post #3
 
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get a good goalie with high concentration, and buy barzagli
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Old 01-21-2008, 04:33 PM   Cannot keep a Clean Sheet Post #4
 
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Exactly the same problem mate.

Its the classic 25-30 shots and no goal and the computer has 4 or 5 and win 2-0

Even if Im 3-0 up with after 90, the computer seems to always get one in the 4th minute of injury time
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Old 01-21-2008, 07:55 PM   Cannot keep a Clean Sheet Post #5
 
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Was wondering how long it would take for somebody to post this, i thought it was just me. every match i have about 25 shots, they have 5-10 and score more than me. I suppose you get emails after the games you fail to win saying things like 'were dominant throughout' or 'failed to convert their superiority into goals'. I get this for my Valencia team (finished 4th first season, 3rd this season). People say I should get better strikers but Silva (from AMC scored 28 in 50) and Villa got about 26 in 35 (was out injured for a few months) so I don't see how I can improve much more. My defence was quality too. Anyway, I'll keep trying out tactics and let u know if I find anything
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Old 01-21-2008, 10:44 PM   Cannot keep a Clean Sheet Post #6
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Originally posted by TheSaddlers:
Was wondering how long it would take for somebody to post this, i thought it was just me. every match i have about 25 shots, they have 5-10 and score more than me. I suppose you get emails after the games you fail to win saying things like 'were dominant throughout' or 'failed to convert their superiority into goals'. I get this for my Valencia team (finished 4th first season, 3rd this season). People say I should get better strikers but Silva (from AMC scored 28 in 50) and Villa got about 26 in 35 (was out injured for a few months) so I don't see how I can improve much more. My defence was quality too. Anyway, I'll keep trying out tactics and let u know if I find anything
my tip would be to go back to 1st beta patch.

match engine creates many less chances and they are converted normally.
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Old 01-21-2008, 11:01 PM   Cannot keep a Clean Sheet Post #7
 
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but the thing is, i have 2 different network games with 6 mates in total and the hosts have 8.0.1. i had even dodgier problems with the patch eg. keepers doing skill on area and passing it to strikers. i wanna keep the patched version, just i think I'll change around some tactics / team instructions. Like I said I'm still doing well with the teams, just not winning / scoring as much as I should (some games score 0 from 25 shots; other team score 2 from 5-10).
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Old 01-21-2008, 11:24 PM   Cannot keep a Clean Sheet Post #8
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Originally posted by garfy:
I have my 2 centre backs on close down only in own area - low creativity - i have a DM who always closes down but rarely gets forward But i just cannot keep clean sheet - any tips would be greatly appreciated
A couple of points that hopefully help.

1. Having your DM close down always doesn't really help against Man Utd (or similar teams). Because of their passing ability, they can easily pass the ball around a single player closing down so it really just uses up your DM's energy.

2. Keep the ball more by reducing the length of passes and slow down the tempo. Having the setting at counter attack just makes your team take advantage of having the ball by getting forward faster and I have never been able to make this work to my advantage.

3. Sitting deep helps reduce the effectiveness of the wingers (Ronaldo, etc), but isn't so good at stopping the long shots from Anderson, Hargreaves, etc so play at a medium setting, but remember to have all your players close down or none of them.

4. You say that the DM doesn't go on forward runs. This is fine, but who is supporting the attack if doesn't go forward? Are there enough players to help hold the ball up long enough or is the opposition defence getting it back quickly and putting you under pressure right away. Think about getting both strikers to hold the ball up more and allow the DM to go on forward runs now and again (middle setting).

5. Try not to make the tactic too complicated by having many individual settings. You can see what is going wrong easier if you set the mentality/creative freedom for the team.

This in itself is not enough to get you clean sheets, because what you also need to do is to watch more games on extended (at least) until you know why they are scoring against you.

It is possible though with alot of work - but that's what makes it satisfying when you get it right.
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Old 01-22-2008, 12:55 AM   Cannot keep a Clean Sheet Post #9
 
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I've started a new game with Chelsea with the aim in mind to create a tactic which ultimately scores goals but keeps clean sheets. Up to this point my results are :

3-0 v Man Utd (N) (Community Shield)
3-1 v Man Utd (H) (Premiership)
3-0 v Blackburn (A) (Premiership)

My next game :



I thought it was going well, playing some good football, breaking down the opposition well, but more importantly creating chances whilst remaining tight at the back.

The Bolton game wasn't a surprise to me, as I'm used to having some games with 25-30 shots whilst the opposition creates very little.

Anyway, at least I got a clean-sheet - I'll keep you posted on my results.
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