Football Manager - Piracy - Consoles - The Future?

retired_jacqueline1962 · 01-18-2008, 09:42 PM

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Originally posted by arrogantio:
Consoles are considerably less useful and have considerably shorter lifespans than the average PC, and thus represent considerably poorer value for money despite their greater purchase price.

The Playstation 2 was released in 2000 and they are still putting out games for it today. I have a feeling you aren't using the same PC from 7 years ago.

If we are talking about a 'decent' gaming PC there is no way you aren't paying at least 2-3 times more than a console when you factor in a decent video card like an 8800GTX, minimum 2GB ram, HD, mobo, Case etc...etc... and that machine will still struggle to play some of the latest games (Crysis) at the highest settings.

dejasade · 01-18-2008, 09:48 PM

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Originally posted by iglesia:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by arrogantio:
Consoles are considerably less useful and have considerably shorter lifespans than the average PC, and thus represent considerably poorer value for money despite their greater purchase price.

The Playstation 2 was released in 2000 and they are still putting out games for it today. I have a feeling you aren't using the same PC from 7 years ago.

If we are talking about a 'decent' gaming PC there is no way you aren't paying at least 2-3 times more than a console when you factor in a decent video card like an 8800GTX, minimum 2GB ram, HD, mobo, Case etc...etc... and that machine will still struggle to play some of the latest games (Crysis) at the highest settings. </BLOCKQUOTE>

doesn't mean he can't use the same pc from 7 years ago.
and that pc from 7 years ago could probably play better quality (graphics/more indepth) games than the playstation 2.

a 'decent' gaming pc i would say is better than the latest consoles? so it would cost more but then your factoring in the cost of a monitor etc.
and while you could argue that for us to play the most uptodate games on PC we have to spend money upgrading, but equally for console players to play the most uptodate games they have to purchase the next best console.
or play the new games, on their old consoles, coming out that would have looked good 5 years ago but aren't now.

you can't really say that the pc's ability to be able to be upgraded is a bad thing

retired_ComfyRest · 01-18-2008, 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by arrogantio:

<BLOCKQUOTE>To make a long story short, a person claimed that by the year 2010 games for PC's will become rare to maybe even non existent.
At first we laughed about this but he explained the reasons why.
Piracy, OS-systems that become to bugged and might collide with the game code causing to many crashes, Drivers that needs to constantly upgrade and many many more reasons that made sense.
In the end it came down to that PC's wouldn't be commercially interesting enough to create games for and developers would focus towards game consoles.
I think he might be right after all.

I do hope SI will keep producing FM for PC's but if at one point they cannot earn enough from it they might drop it also and focus on consoles.

PC games dead by 2010? Didn't FM2008 PC outsell all previous versions? Hands up who would prefer to play an FM without an early release and freely available access to SI and third party modifications and editing utilities... </BLOCKQUOTE>

I was never a believer of that statement myself, but reading the OP made me think again about that thread, so i wrote it down.

I'm for PC's and i simply don't like consoles, i consider them a step back still.
But i do realize that consoles are making a big progress in the last years and that some major titles like the coming "Grand Theft Auto" for example will not be available on PC.
That many people are getting tired of updating drivers every 3 months.
That many people have trouble knowing what to do to make games work on their system when it crashes.
Like for example "updating Nvidia drivers", most don't know you need to uninstall the former ones first and disable your firewall software before installing, otherwise it might not be installed correctly.
And then when a game crashes they claim they updated them, but don't know they didn't do it correct.
Some turn to consoles because of these issues.

I saw Ter his reply and knowing that the PC market isn't to worry about at the moment gives me hope.
Because to be honest the worse thing that can happen to PC is that developers start to create only for consoles imo.

So to answer your questions no not 2010, but maybe there will be a day that PC's get replaced by other systems and die like C64 and Amiga did in the past.
Dunno if FM08 is best selling version, SI will know that better me thinks.

retired_taustin · 01-18-2008, 10:49 PM

The much lower level of piracy in console games is true, at least in North America, and probably also Europe.

Most consoles require hardware modification in order to allow pirated games to work properly, and most people either don't know how, or are not willing to make the modification.

Yes there is piracy, but it is far more difficult to pirate a console game than a PC game, which only requires a software crack, and no hardware adjustments.

dejasade · 01-19-2008, 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by Chas (Psyatika):
The much lower level of piracy in console games is true, at least in North America, and probably also Europe.

Most consoles require hardware modification in order to allow pirated games to work properly, and most people either don't know how, or are not willing to make the modification.

Yes there is piracy, but it is far more difficult to pirate a console game than a PC game, which only requires a software crack, and no hardware adjustments.

http://digital.asiaone.com/Digital/N...107-44004.html

this says not.
also from what i've heard it's not difficult to by a mod-chipped console or get one chipped

dejasade · 01-19-2008, 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by postal postie:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Chas (Psyatika):
The much lower level of piracy in console games is true, at least in North America, and probably also Europe.

Most consoles require hardware modification in order to allow pirated games to work properly, and most people either don't know how, or are not willing to make the modification.

Yes there is piracy, but it is far more difficult to pirate a console game than a PC game, which only requires a software crack, and no hardware adjustments.

http://digital.asiaone.com/Digital/N...107-44004.html

this says not.
also from what i've heard it's not difficult to by a mod-chipped console or get one chipped </BLOCKQUOTE>

think that article is from the straits times.

Dav1d · 01-19-2008, 06:47 PM

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Could I take a PS3 on the train like my laptop?

Of course you could!

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Would it be possible to update the patches with a console?

Yep. Almost every console game out now has a patch available.

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The much lower level of piracy in console games is true, at least in North America, and probably also Europe.

Most consoles require hardware modification in order to allow pirated games to work properly, and most people either don't know how, or are not willing to make the modification.

Yes there is piracy, but it is far more difficult to pirate a console game than a PC game, which only requires a software crack, and no hardware adjustments.

You are sadly mistaken. The XBOX 360, for example, nothing todo with hardware is needed to play copied games. Copied games are very easy to come by too.

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