retired_echater

Realistically, national league reputations shouldn't move too much based on the performance of a single club anyway. It's doubtful that Porto winning the Champions League had any appreciable impact upon the desirability of playing fixtures against Amadora and Braga ... and indeed the principal outcome of their victory was less successful clubs from the bigger European leagues poaching half their team which tends to be what FM players from the Portuguese and Russian leagues get upset about when it happens in game

retired_taustin

^ have to agree with that. Porto won the UEFA Cup, and the Champions League, and all that did was earn their manager a move to Chelsea.

It's impossible to predict which leagues will be the best in Europe 30 years from now, but i appreciated that FM plays it safe and keeps the big leagues big in the game.

If you want your league to improve, get multiple clubs to the Champions League, to increase the overall coefficient and make many clubs powerful. As big as Celtic and Rangers are, Scotland can't be taken seriously by the world's elite players until more clubs come to the forefront. The same is true for other leagues with huge talent gaps, like Romania and Croatia.

England has a talent gap, but not nearly as wide. Scotland is the equivalent of having Tottenham, Newcastle, and then a bunch of clubs that Stockport or even AFC Wimbledon could probably beat!

Emm

Using the Porto example above, wouldn't that be another reason to tie in in to continental coefficients. Although Porto would have caused a rise by winning 2 Cups, the poor-average performance by the other Portugese clubs would have helped water-down the results and given the Portugese structure a significant, (but not unrealistic) increase in reputation.

It might be a completely different ball game if Portugese clubs in general went to the semi's on a regular basis as has happened with Spanish, English and Italian clubs over the lastr few years. These nations would then deservedly top the coefficient charts.

I really think a link to continental coefficients is the way forward with this.

Emm

I think we all get the point you are making but you pushed it a tad far there .