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Old 01-18-2008, 02:05 PM   Considering Citizenship Confusion Post #1
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Right I have used the search to find related questions on this and have so far not been able to find an answer.

Here's my situation

Im Charlton in my 2nd season and I was top of the league going into the January transfer window with no need of signing any new players.

But that changed on the 31st of January because my team did not win a single game in that month and has been playing poorly and to add to that 3 of my main starting defence are now injured.
So...
I did a search for a new CB, and found a player who was better than expected.
He is an uncapped player from Brazil so I thought ok no chance of him playing but I checked to see if he had a 2nd nationality which he didnt.
But...
What I did notice was that he was considering taking citizenship of Poland. He played for a Polish club before moving back to Brazil.
So I put in an offer (5mil), got accepted, he also agreed terms.
But...
A work permit was not granted and no chance of appeal because it was only a couple of hours before the end of the transfer window.
But...
I was given the option of signing him to loan out as I have a feeder club in Belgium.

I accepted thinking he'll agree to become Polish and thus be able to play for me.

When the deal went through my fans were overjoyed with his signing.

He however did not take the Polish nationality upon signing.

Now Here's My Questions

When will he take the 2nd nationality to allow him to play for me?

Is there anything I can do to encourage him to take it?

Would he of taken it straight away to be able to sign for me IF I did not have the Belgium Feeder club?

Do I wait hoping he'll take it because he is currently unable to play?
OR
Do I send him to Belgium on loan until the end of the season hoping that will encourage him to take it?
OR
Do I sell him on and cut my losses on him?

P.S If someone from SI could give us all a clear up on this issue it would be most helpful to all.
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Old 01-18-2008, 02:12 PM   Considering Citizenship Confusion Post #2
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It's unlikely that he'd want to take Polish nationality. He'd probably have done it by now, if so. And there's no way you can force or encourage him.
A couple of scout reports might have given you a different view.
Scout him once, they'll tell you he's great.
Scout him twice, they'll tell you not to bother because he wouldn't gain a work permit.
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Old 01-18-2008, 02:12 PM   Considering Citizenship Confusion Post #3
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he is considering. doesn't mean he'll take it and i dont think we can persuade either all though that would be nice.

offer a contract and see if that persuades him to take
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Old 01-18-2008, 02:15 PM   Considering Citizenship Confusion Post #4
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Best chance is by sending him on loan.
This takes up a few years (3 i think) and even after that he still might not take the Belgian nationality.
I hope he is young enough otherwise you will have nothing on him.
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Old 01-18-2008, 02:22 PM   Considering Citizenship Confusion Post #5
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I do not know how long he has been considering taking the Polish nationality.

At SWaRFeGA

Scout reports were not done as time was an issue and I believe in taking risks. Also I asked questions for answers and your input did not cover them.

At postal postie

Thank you for your input. I will try the new contract and see what happens.

AT RSCA4Ever

He is currently 24 and too good & old really to have him out on loan for 3 years to get the Belgium nationality and I do have some very talented youngsters out there who will be available before he would be.
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Old 01-18-2008, 02:34 PM   Considering Citizenship Confusion Post #6
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at 24 your best bet is to send him on loan to spain or italy who dont have such stringent WP rules.
if he's truly that good he'll be a rgular in the top divisions there and will get enough rep to be able to get a WP with you.
may only take 6months to a year.
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Old 01-18-2008, 02:38 PM   Considering Citizenship Confusion Post #7
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AT RSCA4Ever

He is currently 24 and too good & old really to have him out on loan for 3 years to get the Belgium nationality and I do have some very talented youngsters out there who will be available before he would be.
Considering you paid 5 mil for him, it's your only option imho.
You basically gave the answer yourself in your OP. (look below)
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I was given the option of signing him to loan out as I have a feeder club in Belgium.
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Old 01-18-2008, 02:40 PM   Considering Citizenship Confusion Post #8
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At postal postie

Thanks for that may consider that in the summer as I only have about 2 hours left in the transfer window and so might not have enough time!

Does anyone else have any suggestions or an explanation on how this part of the game works.
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Old 01-18-2008, 02:44 PM   Considering Citizenship Confusion Post #9
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At RSCA4Ever

I see what your saying but I dont want him for that. I dont want to send him on loan for three years as in my opinion he would get worse out there as he is such a good player.

What I would really like to know is if a player is considering. How long does it take or will he make a decision either way.

Remember he has no 2nd nationality and so a polish passport is a EU passport and im sure in real life a player would take it to play over here.
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Old 01-18-2008, 02:54 PM   Considering Citizenship Confusion Post #10
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Surely this problem totally defeats the object of having work permit feeder clubs?

The only reason you send players there is to gain dual nationality.
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