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Old 01-18-2008, 04:41 PM   Considering Citizenship Confusion Post #21
 
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I've had a player in the Spanish league that was considering Spanish citezenship for about two months, maybe just less than that. He was a Columbian regen, and I needed him to take it or be consigned to the B or C team as I didn't have enough foreign player slots to accomodate him otherwise.

I agree that it's strange that a manager can have no influence over a player choosing a nationality or whether to take citezenship. In real life a manager would be furious with a player if he refused citezenship which would allow him to play. Especially if about two weeks later he started to complain about lack of games.
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Old 01-18-2008, 09:40 PM   Considering Citizenship Confusion Post #22
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I would assume that while the Polish government would be willing to give him citizenship while he was living (and working) in the country, they would be unlikely to when he wasn't.
In addition, considering citizenship doesn't say he will take it.
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Old 01-18-2008, 10:44 PM   Considering Citizenship Confusion Post #23
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I see what your saying but I dont want him for that. I dont want to send him on loan for three years as in my opinion he would get worse out there as he is such a good player.

What I would really like to know is if a player is considering. How long does it take or will he make a decision either way.

Remember he has no 2nd nationality and so a polish passport is a EU passport and im sure in real life a player would take it to play over here.
You could try what postal postie recommended.
But do take in mind that when he doesn't get enough play time he will not gain enough in reputation to get that WP.

You really can forget about Poland, what grahamf and Nobby_McDonald said is true, he does have to live and work there on the moment he applies for one, which is legally like irl.
What you can try is loaning him out to a Polish team and hope he will apply then.
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Old 01-18-2008, 10:54 PM   Considering Citizenship Confusion Post #24
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The funny thing is, if you had a Polish feeder club, he probably would have become a Polish citizen on the first day of your loan there!

But now instead you have to wait for him to become Belgian. Lame.
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Old 01-21-2008, 06:52 PM   Considering Citizenship Confusion Post #25
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Yea I think you could be right, he would of got 1 straight away
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Old 01-21-2008, 07:06 PM   Considering Citizenship Confusion Post #26
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i have had players considering citizenship for years (eg. from start of game to 2011), these players are considering citizenship of the country that they are currently playing in but never do decide, I'm guessing the majority of them do not take it up due to caps (full or youth) with their original country, I could be wrong but thats what i've always put it down to :p
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Old 01-21-2008, 07:08 PM   Considering Citizenship Confusion Post #27
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An Update

I decided to take the main advice given and that was to send him on loan to my Belgium feeder clu for the rest of the season.

End of Season (July)

He didn't make a decision on taking the Polish passport and is still considering it.

But here's something interesting that I did find out. I sent him on loan to Belgium on the 31st of January and he returned on the 24th of June I think.
Now how many days do you think he earned towards getting this passport from Brussels. Was it just under 5 months of the year that he was there. Well the answer to that is NO.

He was given a full year towards it, thats right 365 days towards that new passport goal.

Now this just makes alot more new questions and still gives no answers.

Did SI do this on purpose?

Does this mean we dont have to send players on loan there from July but only have to send them there in January just to get this passport?

If thats the case then they would only of been there to earn this passport in theory for only 14.5 months and that is a lot less than a full 3 years even tho that is over the 3 season period but you could keep them at your club to train at better facilites (so when thet do become available they are of a higher standard) before going on loan there just to get the required in game passport qualifing period.

Explanation Needed

What we need is a explanation on how the considering citizenship works and what factors increase the liklyhood of it being taken or infact decrease it.

Also we need to know the exact rules SI have programed in for this 2nd nationality to come into place and the rules regarding it as from what I have seen are not what is in the guidelines previously told or shown.

So if someone from SI could give an explanation it would help us all out.
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Old 01-21-2008, 07:09 PM   Considering Citizenship Confusion Post #28
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I see what you are saying but my player in quesion is uncapped at all levels but is still considering, so that does not fall under your explanation
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Old 01-21-2008, 07:12 PM   Considering Citizenship Confusion Post #29
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I see what you are saying but my player in quesion is uncapped at all levels but is still considering, so that does not fall under your explanation
I was referring to players who play in the country of the considered citizenship mind, I believe that your problem is, as posted earlier, that the player is playing outside the country of consideration
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Old 01-21-2008, 07:18 PM   Considering Citizenship Confusion Post #30
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At Vinton

Yes I see that. But People have said that they have seen players considering for years another nationality and then taking it, being another country from where they are playing.

I'd think we'd all like to know the explanation on how this part of the game works. So come on SI tell us
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