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Old 01-18-2008, 03:03 PM   Considering Citizenship Confusion Post #11
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Have you even read what the problem is!!!!

The player in question has been at a European club and has the option to take a EU passport - for Poland.

It does not defeat the object of a work permit feeder club as you sign players to go there who do not have any chance or any option of playing in England. Which in this case is not the case.
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Old 01-18-2008, 03:13 PM   Considering Citizenship Confusion Post #12
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I think the option of the player taking up a 2nd nationality is entirely random. I have seen some take it up almost straight away and some never take it up at all. It would be good if you could encourage players to take the 2nd nationality though some players may not realise that although they're not in your first team plans it would help their cause if they had a european passport.
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Old 01-18-2008, 03:25 PM   Considering Citizenship Confusion Post #13
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Thanks for your input. Will just have to see what happens and see whether he takes it up. But I agree with the should be able to tell them would make things alot more effective and realistic as well
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Old 01-18-2008, 03:27 PM   Considering Citizenship Confusion Post #14
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Right Im off to go play that game now to see what he decides and I'll let you all know what happens.

But if any1 has an opinion or even a answer to the questions asked or an explanation to this ongoing problem then post it on here as we all would like your input
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Old 01-18-2008, 03:38 PM   Considering Citizenship Confusion Post #15
 
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Have you even read what the problem is!!!!

The player in question has been at a European club and has the option to take a EU passport - for Poland.

It does not defeat the object of a work permit feeder club as you sign players to go there who do not have any chance or any option of playing in England. Which in this case is not the case.
Yep you're right there.

I only had a quick scan as I'm at work and just got a little alarmed that my 4 prospects on loan in Poland would be a waste of time.
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Old 01-18-2008, 03:39 PM   Considering Citizenship Confusion Post #16
 
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Hi Guys!

im also having this kind of problem im currently in my second season with f.c Barcelona and your only allowed a maximum of 3 non eu players in your squad, heres the problem i have rafinha marcelo breno matias fernandez and aguero who are all classed as foreign
aguero could get citizneship but hasnt
marcelo could get citizenship but hasnt
if these two would just accept citizenship then everything would be great but they havent and i really need all 5 of them in my squad (not so much breno)

can anyone help or tell me when they are likely to accept citizenship?

thanks
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Old 01-18-2008, 03:48 PM   Considering Citizenship Confusion Post #17
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I think this could be considered a bug at worst, unrealistic at best.

If the player is considering taking Polish second nationality yet agrees a contract with you knowing full well he won't be able to get a work permit until he accepts the second nationality then surely if he wanted to play for you he would do so. No player would sign for a new club just sit on the bench when they simply need to accept the second nationality available to them in order to play.

At the same time I firmly believe that in this instance you as a manager should have a say in it. I.e you should agree to give them the contract they want on the condition that they accept their Polish 2nd nationality so that they can actually play for you. It's rediculous when paying someone thousands of pounds per week that you have no influence over whether they take the second nationality.
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Old 01-18-2008, 03:54 PM   Considering Citizenship Confusion Post #18
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This is the one part of the game that is severely flawed. Players should be pressured to take up a second nationality or in fact to play for another nation. It happens IRL all the time so why is this not in the game??
The ideal scenario would be where a player will be told "Take up citizenship or you have no future at the club", he will then take up that citizenship (if eligible) or not (being left to transfer). IRL, Roberto Carlos did this (freeing up a foreign player space at Madrid), Gonsalez(liverpool) did the same in order to complete his move. On the opposite side, Kanoute did this with Mali (French/Mali) and I remember some English player choosing Jamaica in 98 in order to play at the World Cup.
This should really be in the game. Cmon SI, sort it out!
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Old 01-18-2008, 04:03 PM   Considering Citizenship Confusion Post #19
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I believe if he wants to take up his Polish nationality he would have to be resident in Poland. Loan him to a Polish team and he should get it in a couple of months.
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Old 01-18-2008, 04:23 PM   Considering Citizenship Confusion Post #20
 
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I think this could be considered a bug at worst, unrealistic at best.

If the player is considering taking Polish second nationality yet agrees a contract with you knowing full well he won't be able to get a work permit until he accepts the second nationality then surely if he wanted to play for you he would do so. No player would sign for a new club just sit on the bench when they simply need to accept the second nationality available to them in order to play.

At the same time I firmly believe that in this instance you as a manager should have a say in it. I.e you should agree to give them the contract they want on the condition that they accept their Polish 2nd nationality so that they can actually play for you. It's rediculous when paying someone thousands of pounds per week that you have no influence over whether they take the second nationality.
That's the point I was trying to make.

Has this been raised on the bugs forum anybody know?
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