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The original goal of this tactic was to put some together that was different (and fun! ) to what I would normally do. So I decided to employ a Wingback system joined together with 3 CBs who are protected by a DM. What I was not certain about was how to setup the 4 other remaining players - obviously these remaining 4 would have to take on the burden of scoring goals. Did I want 1 striker or 2? Would I use 3 CMs? Would it be more beneficial to use an AM behind a single FW? After much messing about I finally settled on the below...
The Setup
Here's the setup - a 3 man defence aided by a DM and Wingbacks.....hmmm, 2 AMs and 2 FWs....interesting.
In practice though, when possession is lost, it should revert to something like the below due to the Barrows:
Team Instructions and the Thinking behind it
Defending Strategy
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Closing Down is set to Own Area, and Defensive Line to Deep-ish.
The goal here is for the team to have the ability to soak up lots of pressure without creating too many defensive gaps or none at all. The 3 CBs and 1 DM means that there is (or should be) little opportunity for attacks through the middle or good shooting opportunities for the opposition. On the flipside, with the WBs slotting nicely into the FB positions, this means that the opposition, in theory, should be forced to play a lot of forced crosses from deep - and at that point a 3-man CB partnership should dominatate those aerial situations (I love the security of a third CB at the centre / back post).
Attacking Strategy
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In possession, Tempero utilizes a [i]slow, short-passing[I] style of football. Width is set reasonably Wide - and fortunately this doesn't seem to hinder the short-passing style too much, as the Wingbacks are never too far away from the CBs / DM / AMs depending on which third of the pitch the ball is in.
Creative Freedom for the team is actually quite Low (except for the AMs / FWs but more on that later) - therefore most players will strict rigidly to their tasks, such as....the WBs will patrol back and forth along the touchline (we want no devations from this); similarly the DM will stay centre - a good springboard for an attack should the AMs or WBs need someone to bounce the ball off of and receive back; the CBs creating a solid defensive wall that moves in unison, always wary about counterattacks.
Perhaps the most important part of the attack strategy with Tempero, is that it utlizes a Playmaker to regulate and control the tempo (unsuprisingly, given the tile ). However, this doesn't always necessarily mean increased possession (indeed, top teams can and will still come top in the percentage stakes) but rather, when playing against the likes of Arsenal / Chelsea, who usually play at a frentic pace, the Playmaker can change the tempo down a few gears, thereby giving breathing room for the defence to move up plus time for the WBs to make those searing runs to the byline that we want to see, and generally creating better than average opportunities for his 3 buddies up top.
As a nice foil for the Playmaker, the other right-sided AMC (the Runner) alongside him is instructed to run with the ball often. Additionally he will make countless forward runs beyond the FW ahead of him - causing indecisiveness amongst the opposition defenders.
The 2 frontman are your typical chalk n' cheese combination so as to add variation to the attack. The right-sided FW is the flair technical-minded forward - he dribbles with the ball a lot and operates in a Free Role - we expect him to see perform small interchanges of passing with the AMs when coming deep. The right-sided FW is our typical Pointman - the most forward reference of the attack - the guy we expect to be in the mix inside the box plus he makes LOTs of Forward Runs.
Specialist Positions
The Playmaker:
Th Playmaker due to his superb Decison-making, passing and shooting is allowed to make lots of through-balls and take on lots of shots. Crucially, he doesn't make a lot of forward runs - instead he holds position just infront of the opposition defence dictating the team's probing attacks as would a general on a battlefield. However, should he make one of his rare forward runs you can be sure something is gonna happen due to that high decision attribute
The Wingbacks:
The Wingback has a balanced mentality - he gives width to the attack and denies space to the opposition wingers. He makes lots of forward runs up the line only crossing when he reaches the byline. He has low Creative freedom, as we don't wish him to move out from the Wing when the team is attacking, instead we want to keep our width - plus this would just be asking to be caught out of position on a counterattack on the wings. The Eingback rarely takes Long Shots, his sole purpose being to progress the ball from the defending players to the attacking players.
The 5 Key Attributes for each Position
As a rule for this formation, I stick rigidly to the following list. Especially important are the attributes for the Playmaker and Wingback specialist roles (otherwise the whole thing will probably fall apart).
AMC (L) / "The Playmaker": Creativity, Decisions, Passing, Technique, First Touch
AMC (R) / "The Runner": Creativity, Passing, Dribbling, Technique
FC (L) / "The Pointman": Finishing, Heading, Jumping, Off the Ball, Composure
FC (R) / "The Showman": Dribbling, Passing, Flair, Creativity, Technique
So how did Tempero fare?
Good question. I started a game as manager of Manchester City and have just completed the 2nd season. Reasons for picking Man City were threefold:
1. A superb CB trio in Corluka, Dunne, Richards (the younger 2 have since buggered off to bigger clubs).
2. An absolute beast of a Playmaker in Elano
3. Not a top side, merely a mediocre one but on the up (i.e. lots of money available / big stadium )
Season 07/08 was a very experimental one. I must have gone through about 20 iterations of the tactic before settling upon the finished version in the pre-season after. Predicted to finish 14th, I actually finished 9th. Good but certainly not great.
Season 08/09 was much more productive. With money available in the summer, I got in a recognized WBR (Seitaridis) and I replaced the departed Corluka / Richards easily enough plus also managed to attract van der Vaart of all people to partner Elano in attack - a dream partnership. Predicted to finish 8th, I instead finished 5th. Better, however as you can see below, CL qualification was definitely do-able.
In the above I've circled the obvious problem - too many draws. This I believe is mainly due to some shoddy transfer work by myself as i didn't replacing the departed Bojinov (in Summer '08) with a proven striker (I had Bianchi partnered by Petrov for most of the season) to score goals. 5 of the 11 draws were actually 0-0s - so thats 10points lost out on due to a lack of firepower upfront, even just 2 of those draws turned into wins would have been enough - the difference between CL and UEFA Cup football unfortunately. I will makes amends in Summer '09.
Other highlights included a League Cup win, beating Chelsea over 2 legs in the semis and the 'Pool on penos in the final.
Plus some good performances against the teams above me including this enojoyable one against Arsenal where we constantly soaked up their constant pressure:
Conclusions
Extremely fit Wingbacks and a very smart Playmaker are absolute key to making 3-3-2-2 Tempero WB a success - hence, the only teams you are likely to find any success with this setup are those from the top leagues who would usually have these players, i.e. EPL, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga, etc... I'd be especially interested to see how it gets on with a midtable team in Italy (I might make the job move there with it after another 2 years with ManC).
Again, let me stress, it's certainly not a wonder tactic (definitely not a free-scoring one!) but its doing a decent job for me and could be useful for someone wishing to utilise WBs, or for someone who simply wants to try something different. Hey....it might even inspire someone to make their own, better, WB system. Also, like most tactics, a team will require time to gel with this one.
Finally, have to add, it's actually been immensely satisfying and fun putting a (mostly) working tactic together, which is ultimately what the game should be about, right?
I've pretty much developed the same tactic in my Bath City game and had great success. I only conceeded 9 goals all season, lost none.
For my tactic however I don't use barrows on the wingbacks because they naturally take up more a fullback position when out of possession. I've never had a problem with them being caught out and the central defenders do a nice sweeping action if they are.
Initially I was using a low team creativity setting as yourself but found once I bumped it back to the middle I was able to create better chances.
Anyway, all I can say is the 3-3-2-2 tactic (or 5-1-2-2 as my manager profile says) is a great tactic and good for keeping cleaning sheets.
Fantastic opening post mate! Looks very well thought out. I've never really managed to get a wing-back based formation to work on 08 (or 07 for that matter) but i'll give this a go if i get time. Would be very interested to see how the tactic fares with smaller teams and in other leagues!
KUTGW! :thup:
For my tactic however I don't use barrows on the wingbacks because they naturally take up more a fullback position when out of possession. I've never had a problem with them being caught out and the central defenders do a nice sweeping action if they are.
Can I ask how you managed to get the WBs to do that without Barrows - unfortunately, only the Barrows got me that desired effect. Agree though, the CBs do a wonderful sweeping job should the worse happen.
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Anyway, all I can say is the 3-3-2-2 tactic (or 5-1-2-2 as my manager profile says) is a great tactic and good for keeping cleaning sheets.
Just looked at my Profile screen. Apparently I play 5-1-0-2-2. Heh
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Originally Posted by Kn0xy
Would be very interested to see how the tactic fares with smaller teams and in other leagues!
Definitely, yes. Once i've had my fill of ManC over the next few weeks, Id like to take the system to Italy / Spain. It may do great things with a mid-table team who have a solid pair of WBs + a star midfield man.
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Originally Posted by srose74
i'm plannin on trying this tactic to start with sevilla - alves and adriano as bombing wb. i will let you know how it goes.
Yeh, Sevilla are a nice pick - no need to bring in any WBs just yet with Alves / Adriano there - just need to decide on who your main man is in midfield.
Ughhh, the Forum really needs a Post Preview button - here's the above post again tidied up...
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Thanks for comments so far guys.
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Originally posted by Powermonger:
For my tactic however I don't use barrows on the wingbacks because they naturally take up more a fullback position when out of possession. I've never had a problem with them being caught out and the central defenders do a nice sweeping action if they are.
Can I ask how you managed to get the WBs to do that without Barrows - unfortunately, only the Barrows got me that desired effect. Agree though, the CBs do a wonderful sweeping job should the worse happen.
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Anyway, all I can say is the 3-3-2-2 tactic (or 5-1-2-2 as my manager profile says) is a great tactic and good for keeping cleaning sheets.
Just looked at my Profile screen. Apparently I play 5-1-0-2-2. Heh
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Originally posted by Kn0xy:
Would be very interested to see how the tactic fares with smaller teams and in other leagues!
Definitely, yes. Once i've had my fill of ManC over the next few weeks, Id like to take the system to Italy / Spain. It may do great things with a mid-table team who have a solid pair of WBs + a star midfield man.
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Originally posted by srose74:
i'm plannin on trying this tactic to start with sevilla - alves and adriano as bombing wb. i will let you know how it goes.
Yeh, Sevilla are a nice pick - no need to bring in any WBs just yet with Alves / Adriano there - just need to decide on who your main man is in midfield.
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Originally posted by benny250:
sorry, i can't download the tactic, what's wrong?
Thanks Hagar. I spent all my transfer budget (and then some selling off marti, maresco, and others) to buy Diego from Werder Bremen. He will be my AMC-(L) and Jesus Navas my AMC - (R). Poulsen/Renato will be my DMC and then I'm trying to loan Pique to go with Bhoularouz, Escude and Aquivaldo. That back 3 based on talent may be my undoing...
First of all, I want to congratulate you with the way you posted your tactic. That's how it should be done: a nice bit of background-information, tips on what attributes to look for, test-results with screenshots. Great job! :thup:
Your post convinced me to give your tactic a try. I chose to test your tactic with Everton. I had to bring in a lot of players, because the ones I had weren't really suited to the tactic (allthough Baines and Hibbert make good wingbacks). I believe I got some quality aboard with Alex (from Fenerbahce) as playmaker and Luka Modric playing alongside him. The other players I bought were backup players so I always have good players that are suited to the tactic (like Lucas Neill for WBR or Pierre Womé for WBL). The three friendly (away) games I played (against Kladno, Toulouse and Preston) were all won with 1-0, but that doens't tell me much.
I have played 5 league games at the moment and I have to say that I'm a little dissapointed... Especially the lack of goals I score is a problem for me... Anyway, here are the results (including number of shots on goal and on target):
You could argue that one loss in five games isn't bad, but it's all those draws that are costing me... 6 points from a possible 15 is just not good enough. Especially, if you know that I scored very late equalizers against Derby (86th minute), Portsmouth (90th minute) and Tottenham (89th minute) and felt extremely lucky to get away with a point. Allthough if you look at the number of shots I had on goal/target I was unlucky not to win apparantly.
Anyway, five games is naturally very short, so I'm going to continue this test and I will keep you posted. Hopefully, we'll gel and turn some draws into wins. That would make all the difference.
For your information, I will give you my line-up (maybe you can spot a problem):
GK: Tim Howard
DC: Joleon Lescott
DC: Joseph Yobo
DC: Phil Jagielka
WBL: Leighton Baines
WBR: Tony Hibbert
DMC: Phil Neville
AMCL: Alex
AMCR: Luka Modric
STL: James Vaughan
STR: Yakubu
I started the season with Andy Johnson as STL, but his jumping is too low, so I use Vaughan now, who has already scored twice.
I just had the urge to play one more game before calling it a night (we all know the feeling) and it happened to be Man Utd at home. It was another 1-1 draw, allthough I was happy with this point (despite being very, very lucky to get away with it). Right, I'm now off to bed and will report back later this week.
3-3-2-2 Tempero WB 
) to what I would normally do. So I decided to employ a Wingback system joined together with 3 CBs who are protected by a DM. What I was not certain about was how to setup the 4 other remaining players - obviously these remaining 4 would have to take on the burden of scoring goals. Did I want 1 striker or 2? Would I use 3 CMs? Would it be more beneficial to use an AM behind a single FW? After much messing about I finally settled on the below...
). However, this doesn't always necessarily mean increased possession (indeed, top teams can and will still come top in the percentage stakes) but rather, when playing against the likes of Arsenal / Chelsea, who usually play at a frentic pace, the Playmaker can change the tempo down a few gears, thereby giving breathing room for the defence to move up plus time for the WBs to make those searing runs to the byline that we want to see, and generally creating better than average opportunities for his 3 buddies up top.
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