retired_pmetzger1

There is nothing wrong with renegotiating contracts per se, but to have a deliberate ploy of signing players to good contracts only to immediately offer a lower wage is, quite frankly, cheating.

retired_mrsjb

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mavisdavis:
damn, the players accepting a lower wage thing is a bug?

I have done this after joining a recently relagated team, offered player "a" less cash but a non promotion release, is this exploiting a bug? if so (other than restart) what can I do to correct this with a clear concience?

what would others do? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you just joined the club, the player was already there, and you were taking action to ensure the financial stability of the club by controlling the wage bill, then I'd say there's no problem. I think that's realistic enough.

If you had signed him yourself and then immediately exploited the contract change thing, then you'd be contrary to LLaMa ethics, IMHO.

KingsbayYHPE

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mavisdavis:
damn, the players accepting a lower wage thing is a bug?

I have done this after joining a recently relagated team, offered player "a" less cash but a non promotion release, is this exploiting a bug? if so (other than restart) what can I do to correct this with a clear concience?

what would others do? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

One of the few times where "If hou have to ask if you're cheating...", well, dang me! This time you ain't

retired_abejamaya98

Certain player IRL will accept a pay cut if circumstances dictate, so I'd have no problem in giving a player an extra year for a slightly lower wage.
However, getting them to take 6 pay cuts in a month is basically cheating - in LLM terms anyway.

retired_andrec

Thank you all. To be honest, I thought this might be a cheat according the llama spirit, but may be there was a glimmmer of hope it would be considered as a bug rather than a cheat.

So, I guess I have to forget about this 'option'.

BTW, I just signed few new guys in the beggining of my second season with St. Albans and I decided to try 'the option', but none of them wanted to sign new contract with me - not only for less money, but for whatever money (not sure if you understand my pitiful tries to speak and write english). So anyway I guess this won't work in fm 2005.

Final words, pls be merciful this just came up in my mind. These few guys I have signed were all founded by my scouts while they were playing in the conference on loan from league clubs. And may be this is why they accepted to join my club - they were all transfer listed by request (for less money then their actual value), played in lower league clubs (so they weren't first team choice in their clubs). And I am doubtful if they would have join me if they were playing in Watford instead of D&R or in Morecambe instead of Preston, for example. What do you think about this? Please, don't tell me this is a llama cheat too - i'll have to restart my game from the begining...

retired_kswansonwoolf

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AlexxBG:
Thank you all. To be honest, I thought this might be a cheat according the llama spirit, but may be there was a glimmmer of hope it would be considered as a bug rather than a cheat.

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Exploiting bugs is cheating. But if you didn't know about it at the time, it's ok with us.

retired_princess160

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> These few guys I have signed were all founded by my scouts <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ah, that's the problem! Nepotism is baaad
Your scouts do get around, don't they?

retired_sandra

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by a2000:
The player obviously has sense. No one in there right mind would want to move to Nuneaton.
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No, they go to Tamworth instead.

retired_sandra

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by forestfan6:
i'm dorchester in the conf south and unbeaten in first 10 games with these free players.
Hugh
Pugh
Barney McGrew
Cuthbert
Dibble
Grubb

so u can attract decent players.

This message has been editied. Last edited by: Iajafer, 02 December 2004 12:02 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Been using those players I tipped you Ian?

retired_andrec

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DJ:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> These few guys I have signed were all _founded _ by my scouts <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ah, that's the problem! Nepotism is baaad
Your scouts do get around, don't they? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I knew it... knew my English is bad ((