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Old 01-12-2008, 05:33 PM   [Sug] Historical Reputation & Normal Reputation Post #1
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I find the reputation-based system to measure club ability somewhat flawed. Given the proof found in these forums that reputation directly affects unplayable leagues, besides obviously affecting the quality of players a team can purchase, the affiliates it can get, etc.., I hereby have this suggestion for the SI team to consider.

Reputation would be maintained but a new stat would be introduced, called Historical Reputation. That reputation would be a scale of how good the club has made it in the past.

What would be the use of this? Well, everyone agrees that a big club in the past is more prone to stage a comeback in the future. If, let's say, Chelsea folded and re-started in the lower leagues, it would be more likely it would get better sponsorships, or even be bought by some rich eastern european.

Obviously, you could say "but normal reputation already does that!", well, it doesn't. If a team consistently under-performs in FM, they end up without any reputation at all in the very end, and with minor chances of making a comeback, even if the club is a "classical giant". If a club goes down to a rep of 500, let's say, it would be immensely cool that, because of their historical rep, they'd nonetheless attract a fair amount of people interested in bringing them up again, this compared to other "500 clubs" that haven't achieved nothing great.

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Old 01-12-2008, 05:51 PM   [Sug] Historical Reputation & Normal Reputation Post #2
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It's an idea.

However I would like the historical reputation also to be fluent albeit less fluent than the normal reputation. Therefore I would consider historical reputation more like longterm reputation while having the normal reputation as shortterm reputation

(It's to be discussed ofcourse what the span of longterm reputation should be, 5 years?, 10 years?, 20 years?)

I would like to have the longterm reputation fluent because of at least 2 issues:
1) If a bigclub fails to win something for years and years and/or even relegates a few levels down it's bound to lose reputation regardless how big they used to be.
2) If you play with a lower league club and you'll get finally promoted to the highest level and all the clubs there have their fixed high historical reputation that will make the game not really fun to play.

Concluding:
It's an idea. However if you set the historical reputation too short there will hardly be a difference with the way it is now. If you set the era for historical reputation too long the game will be too biased to current topteams.
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Old 01-12-2008, 06:03 PM   [Sug] Historical Reputation & Normal Reputation Post #3
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Yes I agree with you. It should drop with time if the team underperforms; in short, it should be an "average reputation" over the past X years or something of the sort.
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