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Old 01-29-2007, 11:49 PM   Set Peices - Why Bolton Are So Successfull Post #31
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Let me just try and re-phrase the corner routine a bit more so people know what people to look for -

Corner Taker - Obviously your best corner taker goes here, obviously decisions and technique come into it as well but corner taking is deffo number 1.

Near Post Flick On - Obviously your best arial threat goes here.

Challenge Keeper - Strongest player, if you've got a good solid target man then he does well here to block the keeper.

Stand On Far Post - Another strong tall defender could go here just in case the header get's flicked on or hit too long.

Attack Far Post - I just had Alonso running for this, someone with good heading and anticipation for this role. Sissoko did this well for me when he did play.

Lurk Outside Area - Best long range shooter, I had Gerrard, say no more.

Offer Short Option - I just used the opposite winger but if you have a fullback with better crossing then maybe use him instead.

After that I left one player forward, preferably a fox in the box and then 1 player back and the other stay back if needed.

As for defending corner's I currently have the following apparently :p -

GK - Default
Fullbacks - On each post
DC's - Marking Tall People (If you have a tall striker then keep him back and let him mark tall as well)
Fast FC - Forward
Best winger - Forward
Everyone Else - Back

Although not thorougly a tall forward I kept Kuyt back to help defend at corners and left Pennant and Bellamy forward. Now personally I felt this made the best counter attack because if the ball goes out to Pennant he'll dribble down the flank (per his instructions) and hopefully he's dragged both defenders with him a bit to angle a cross into the box for Bellamy. This is not a fool proof counter attack but it works well for me with the players I use.

So what next, oh yeah attacking free-kicks. Well I have nothing revolutionary here.

GK - Default
Fullbacks - Stay Back
DC's - One forward and the strongest to disrupt wall
DMC - Stay Back if needed (Xabi was my freekick taker so he normally went forward
Wingers - Forward
AMC - Forward
Strikers - If you have a strong one then get him to mark keeper. If not then maybe get your other defender to mark keeper and the strikers are just kept forward.

As for defending free-kicks I have the following -

GK + DC's - Default
Fullbacks - Man Mark
The Rest - Wall

Everyone behind the ball really, quite simple and nothing extreme.

As for throw in's again I have nothing really revolutionary -

GK - Default
Fullbacks - Back
DC's - One back and one forward. If it was left throw in then the right center back would go up and vice versa.
DMC - Back
Wingers - Depending on what side they would come short, the other default. So if it was on the left side the left winger would come short and the other default.
AMC - Lurk
Strikers - One at the near post and the other short, make your own shoice who you want to come short and which one to come forward.

Corners Aimed - Near Post
Free-Kicks - I had aim for best head but have now gone to mixed
Throw-In's - Mixed.

So there you have it :thup:
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Old 01-29-2007, 11:50 PM   Set Peices - Why Bolton Are So Successfull Post #32
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EDIT On defending corners I had wingers on posts and fullbacks back, sorry for the mix up.
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Old 01-30-2007, 03:27 AM   Set Peices - Why Bolton Are So Successfull Post #33
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EDIT On defending corners I had wingers on posts and fullbacks back, sorry for the mix up.
What sort of results are you experiencing with your corner routine?
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Old 01-30-2007, 10:20 AM   Set Peices - Why Bolton Are So Successfull Post #34
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Originally posted by Stephanie McMahon's Secret Lover:
I have to say that the default settings for set pieces are awful. For starters it has your centre backs marking tall players but not all centre backs are big.
True but if you define default then it simply means that for most of the time center backs are tall. Obviously you have to tweak to your team, that's the way FM works. The more time you spend tweaking to your squad then the more productivity you are going to see. I spend like hours on the first day of employment simply just writing down the 25 man squad, their strengths, their weaknesses and what potential players I have to buy. No teams are alike, they are simply like fingerprints, each one unique.
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Old 01-30-2007, 10:22 AM   Set Peices - Why Bolton Are So Successfull Post #35
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Originally posted by Dayle Wood:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Justified:
EDIT On defending corners I had wingers on posts and fullbacks back, sorry for the mix up.
What sort of results are you experiencing with your corner routine? </BLOCKQUOTE>

On my defensive one? Good, seems solid enough for a good team, playing Crouch now and then helps as he can mark tall players so when up against a team like Bolton (or Charlton who seem to have a lot of big players :S )it helps when he marks tall. Saying that though Kuyt hasn't done badly in my penalty box defending set peices but I guess that's because of his work rate/bravery I suppose.
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Old 01-30-2007, 10:57 AM   Set Peices - Why Bolton Are So Successfull Post #36
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Dayle Wood:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Justified:
EDIT On defending corners I had wingers on posts and fullbacks back, sorry for the mix up.
What sort of results are you experiencing with your corner routine? </BLOCKQUOTE>

On my defensive one? Good, seems solid enough for a good team, playing Crouch now and then helps as he can mark tall players so when up against a team like Bolton (or Charlton who seem to have a lot of big players :S )it helps when he marks tall. Saying that though Kuyt hasn't done badly in my penalty box defending set peices but I guess that's because of his work rate/bravery I suppose. </BLOCKQUOTE>sorry my fault, I meant your attacking one.
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Old 01-30-2007, 02:32 PM   Set Peices - Why Bolton Are So Successfull Post #37
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SMSL- if you set up the tactical tempate xml file then it's there at the start of every game and you don't have to set them up every time.
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Originally posted by Stephanie McMahon's Secret Lover:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Asmodeus:
SMSL- if you set up the tactical tempate xml file then it's there at the start of every game and you don't have to set them up every time.
Thats OK I already know that. I'm talking about Mr Average Joe Bloggs who works for a living and has a wife who hates him playing FM.
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That's me dude.
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Old 01-30-2007, 06:41 PM   Set Peices - Why Bolton Are So Successfull Post #39
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We had a small discussion in the GPTG OTT about how our respective girlfriends/wives/missus' disliked us playing FM and referring to it as "dots running about on a screen", but that spawned from a female poster mentioning it to begin with :eek:
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Old 03-02-2007, 02:35 PM   Set Peices - Why Bolton Are So Successfull Post #40
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Originally posted by Justified:
Let me just try and re-phrase the corner routine a bit more so people know what people to look for -

Corner Taker - Obviously your best corner taker goes here, obviously decisions and technique come into it as well but corner taking is deffo number 1.

Near Post Flick On - Obviously your best arial threat goes here.

Challenge Keeper - Strongest player, if you've got a good solid target man then he does well here to block the keeper.

Stand On Far Post - Another strong tall defender could go here just in case the header get's flicked on or hit too long.

Attack Far Post - I just had Alonso running for this, someone with good heading and anticipation for this role. Sissoko did this well for me when he did play.

Lurk Outside Area - Best long range shooter, I had Gerrard, say no more.

Offer Short Option - I just used the opposite winger but if you have a fullback with better crossing then maybe use him instead.

After that I left one player forward, preferably a fox in the box and then 1 player back and the other stay back if needed.
That's basically how I set my corners up, particularly from the right as my best corner takers are right footed. I set it to aim for near post and its very effective, particularly as I have a new corner taker (he scored direct from a corner last night, in off the near post!). It works best if it is an inswinger rather than an outswinger generally...

I don't have a good left footed corner taker at the moment so I mix my left sided corners up a bit, generally short option although I conceded after being hit on the break from one such corner
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