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Old 11-20-2006, 11:09 AM   After Match - The Looking At Stats Post #1
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So you either won, lost or drawn but just how much do you take notice of the game after? You can learn a lot about a tactic and whats working and whats not, just by spending a few minutes looking at the individual player stats from a particular game. At first glance you should be able to tell the things that need changing.

Heres a screenshot of one of my games

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Now, the first thing I look at is the attempts at passes and the completed ones for all the squad.

One of the things that hits me straight away is my goalkeeper. Hes done 20 passes and completed only 7, which automatically tells me I need to change his passing. For this game he was on direct passing and kick it long. SO for the next game I know to try a different approach and play slightly shorter, and see if these stats improve.

As for the rest of the teams passing, I am pretty pleased overall.

Next up I look at the tackling, as you can see not many tackles where made, this was probably down to how dominant I was. But when a player was asked to tackle, he won most of them. So again happy.

Now I look at header and its the same as above really, i particular note the defensive headers here though and I see my players won almost everything at the back. This is always pleasing to see.

Then we come onto the interceptions, just look at how well my leftback and right back did. 10 interceptions is a decent number for 1 game. This automatically tells me my fullbacks are doing their job, I set them upto win balls and they seem to be doing this.

The DMC Jagielka also did a fair few intercetions, again breaking attack up which for me is his sole job for the team.

As for the rest im pretty happy.

It only takes a few minutes max to see what went wrong statistic wise, and then its pretty obvious what to change.

I'm guessing a lot of people don't bother with the stats though as they think they don't mean that much?
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Old 11-20-2006, 11:15 AM   After Match - The Looking At Stats Post #2
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44 interceptiosn that game, pretty pleased with that. Didn't realise the true total til just now. This is whats winning me games as most of my games are the same stats wise.
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Old 11-20-2006, 11:28 AM   After Match - The Looking At Stats Post #3
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I do that after almost every match That's how I can see if my tactic is doing well or if I need to strengthen up a position.
For example, both full backs are on the same settings tactically, but one is doing much better than the other. That means the other isn't good enough to handle his instructions, while the other one is doing his job very well... Stuff like that

Though I also imagine not many people do it because some only want to download a tactic and hit the continue button... Which is also okay if it's fun for them, but this way it really lets me feel like a manager
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Old 11-20-2006, 11:30 AM   After Match - The Looking At Stats Post #4
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Slightly off topic but relevant imo, i understand what ure saying about stats, which i shall now take a deeper look at, but what u say about passing, would u alter this even if theyre stats suggest this would be bad, ex giving someone mix passing if they had bad decisions, or shorter passing if they couldent pass?
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Slightly off topic but relevant imo, i understand what ure saying about stats, which i shall now take a deeper look at, but what u say about passing, would u alter this even if theyre stats suggest this would be bad, ex giving someone mix passing if they had bad decisions, or shorter passing if they couldent pass?
Yes, seeing as every player is different id keep changing it until I saw an improvement in his completed stats. For one bad passer it might be a case of slight shorter, where as for another passer he might need a slightly more direct.
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Old 11-20-2006, 11:45 AM   After Match - The Looking At Stats Post #6
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i know u say do slight changes, but how would this effect the formation or type of football u wish to play, could u just do a basic 4-4-2 and just adjust every players settings to make it perfect for them, eg giving creative freedom, u take all the things that add to the effect, take an average, in turn, u could just base the whole settings of players according to theyre settings.
broken down, i meant can u create a tactic based soley on the best settings for that player, rather than a team tactic
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Old 11-20-2006, 11:49 AM   After Match - The Looking At Stats Post #7
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What should people do if they don't win teh tackles and headers though?
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i know u say do slight changes, but how would this effect the formation or type of football u wish to play, could u just do a basic 4-4-2 and just adjust every players settings to make it perfect for them, eg giving creative freedom, u take all the things that add to the effect, take an average, in turn, u could just base the whole settings of players according to theyre settings.
broken down, i meant can u create a tactic based soley on the best settings for that player, rather than a team tactic
I believe so yes, its all about playing to your strengths. However depending on the shape of the formation it might be a little bit more difficualt to give each player his best instructions as you could end up with too many defensive minded or attack minded players. You have to find a good balance inbwteeen, so you are happy with both aspects.

I say change it little by little as its easier to remember what you changed and notic the differences it actually makes. If you change lots of isntructions in 1 go, how can you tell which instruction fails you if it doesn't work?
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Old 11-20-2006, 11:52 AM   After Match - The Looking At Stats Post #9
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What should people do if they don't win teh tackles and headers though?
Headers are difficult, but you can try and make sure the ball is played on the ground rather than in the air. You can do this by playing a slow, short passing game. If its defensive headers then get the players to close down earlier and see if that solves it.

As for tackles change to easy tackling if they miss a lot, as they probably are not upto tackling.
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Old 11-20-2006, 02:15 PM   After Match - The Looking At Stats Post #10
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Arthur Li:
What should people do if they don't win teh tackles and headers though?
I would reccomend that you actually assess your squad taking a look at there height, jumping stat, strength and tackling tehn this will help you to actually see what style to play.

It will be no good playing long high balls up the park if you got strikers standing at 5'9 and a midfield no bigger than 5'10 it is obvious you will lose most headers and therefore lose possession and as Cleon said a side like this you will need to try to play the ball on the ground.

So take this into consideration when working out what kind of football you are going to play. :thup: </BLOCKQUOTE>

If the game were set to take account of height this would be true. As it is my 5'9 target man striker wins 99% of his headers every game because he has 20 jumping.

Sorry to be picky but just wanted to point out you only need to look at jumping ability (and heading if you dont want 50% of those headers he wins going straight to the opposition) not height
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