retired_marvinr

Just out of curiosity how many of you guys use pretty global settings for your tactics.

I think i have one, maybe 2 guys on my whole team on indvidual anything. Forward runs, through balls and crossing not included of course.

I've run up quite food results with a 442 on all Global mentality (except for my one striker) My away/underdog tactic has been refined numerous times and its now almost fully global with the exception of man marking wings.

So how many of you guys play global settings and what formations do you guys use?

I'm hoping this can turn into a discussion to help some of the players who really struggle with making their tactics work.

retired_kellyk

I've been showing how you can create tactics using global settings and given results of this approach in Creating Tactics - A Reasoned Approach.In that thread I show how I maintain global settings, make the game simple and perhaps more enjoyable for some.

retired_mgavlick

Although I don't use them (at all) a quick test a while back left me in no doubt that global works very well.

retired_marvinr

I've found it quite hard to use the Global settings for anything other then a 4-4-2. I've managed to get mixed results with a 3-4-3 (basically a 3-1-3-2)

In your thread you do alot more then even I touch. To name two examples all of my passing stays on short, weither it be defenders or forwards and all of my closing down stays the same

Everytime I put my defenders on direct the just boot the ball up the pitch and into the opposing team. With everyone short and everyone on the same mentality, we build quite a good attack and usually create good chances. (weither we finish or not is another question)

Also my closing down is all static too.. I don't have my game up at the moment but I'm almost certain noone has an individual closing down. Thats probably what I've found most difficult about doing everything global. Too much closing down for some poisitions and too little for others.

How High do you put your defensive line? I usually keep mine on 10 - 12 when I'm home and around 7-8 or away and I'm usually pretty successful. I'm wondering if any higher will create more opportunities while still keeping my good defensive record (I very rarely allow more then about 4 or 5 shots at all unless I'm playing a quite strong team.)
(at home, away is a different story altogther)

I've also toyed around with giving my center backs forward runs on always, but i reverted back to only mixed because I took over a southampton team in basically turmoil. Have you ever tried giving just about everyone forward runs in the Global mnetality?

retired_kellyk

Tactical_Nightmare..go to my thread...I don't think I'll be repeating much here...cos I do set things up and explain..for one thing I've started on a 433..now i'm on a 424 which is more harder to get right.

I'll probably make a few tactics using that approach and show how to just use the sliders to handle a match. That means you do not make any individual adjustments, if someone is so out of shape then you should just sub him.

Essentially there are 3 broad steps to getting tactics right.

Setting up a tactic and making simple changes
Understanding how to use team talks to get the best out of your players
And when the match is underway how to use OI to handle difficult players...for that I'll probably do a link to Leroy's thread which is fairly explicit.

retired_hope

RoO and RoT mentality systems are not very flexible in my view.

The benefits from playing with these systems are out wayed by the complexity of their implementation.

This results in people doing the following:-

Setup RoO and then leave it unchanged (Static Failure)

Spend lots of time tweaking it (Micromanagement Hell)

Create 14 different tactics just to control mentality (Tactical Count Explosion)

Just my view, if you have success with it or do not mind that level of mircromanaging then please continue with it as at least RoO can be sound tactically in FM2007.

I prefer the flexibility a global system brings and I also believe they are better.

retired_kellyk

Personally I've held the belief that if a tactic is designed well it should work all the time. There are only a few things to bear in mind when playing against different AI Managers.

Think wwwfan has tried to do something that works well for everyone...I can't speak for him but he just offers people a choice : There are all these tactics and he is very detailed on what kind of formations and when to use them. His approach is good for people who don't like tweaking and just like broad brush strokes. But understanding why you pick a tactic for a different situation becomes critical. For all you know you could take up a defensive posture against United and find yourself barraged by them and losing possession to a point where you might as well hand em 3 points on a platter.

Knowing what to do is key here, and I think there are times when you have to take "control" of the match and dominate "possession". There are many ways to play this game and therein lies the beauty. You can go global...you can create some intricate designs which are my favourite or you can have a base template of tactics for use for any occassion.

Understanding why they stop working for example and what factors cause this become essential if you ever hope to understand the game...and this is where global settings work best. Here the parameters are fixed, all you do is:

1. Increase width cos you aren't getting enough crosses in or there aren't enough chances

2. Reduce width cos you find yourself faced against a team that is passing the ball through the middle for fun.

Thing is this game has developed, global settings allow people to understand tactic creation much more faster than designing intricate ones or downloading tactics and then just dropping players in till they work

retired_hope

You need to be careful, especially will point 1. There are 90 mins in the game and you need to play according to the situation of the game. Playing wider leaves you more open to the counter though the middle.

If you have the better team then let them use ther ability to win you the match and not have to resort to very wide formations until the last 10 mins or so.

retired_kellyk

I've always said that you need to temper your width..too wide and you leave holes in the centre..usually 15 is best

retired_hope

I use width(13) at home and width(10) away. Although I usually manager teams in the conference or League Two. For Premiership 15 sounds spot on.