JeffRogers

ive had great success with a narrow width with arsenal! its just a matter of getting all other things in line with what you want!

retired_Damonica

well i don't agree that RoO tactics are not very flexible. i'm at present using, and learning from using, The_Next_Diaby's RoOmbus system, a 442 wide diamond (latest version available at FM Britain. same formation, many of the same ideas i prefrred in 2k6, but without the inconsistencies that my own tactics caused me.

i don't leave it static, and normally the only thing i ever tweak manually is to reduce forward runs for fullbacks if they're getting overrun (or if they're getting beaten badly, adding barrows). sometimes if my attacking tactic is not creating hte chances it should i make some adjustments (wider, direct passing, untick counter-attacking).

as far as tactical count explosion, it's a question of degree isn't it.

i commonly use the following:

attacking, away attack, balanced, defensive

for special situations i have:

shut up shop, all-out-attack (i have 2 of these, rarely use 'em) and crappy weather.

next 'career' i'm going to build myself a more ajax-oriented RoO tactic and it will most likely have the following

attack, possession attack, balanced, defensive

all out attack, long/wide, counter, SUS, crappy weather.

that's a lot of tactics true, but i feel can change them from the quick tactics screen quicker than i can adjust the global settings. only catch is it takes a bit of time to set them up in the first place. also, if i were playing global mentality and not using tactics sets, i'd have to make a series of individual adjustments for each type of situation.

i believe that any adjustments you can make to gain a slight tactical advantage over the AI are worthwhile. i expect a lot of global mentality systems work just fine, a lot of people are getting very good results. i had been using split mentality since cm04 so RoO seemed sensible and intuitive to me. it's really a question of specialist vs generalist play isn't it? question comes up in setting up trainings too (how general vs how position-specific).

normally i dont use many global settings but i sometimes use global passing (normally i have the crappy passers in the back like my halfbacks making somewhat longer passes).

i suspect that many of the 'cheat' phenomena (misfiring strikers, superkeepers, dominate and lose, etc) are really the result of tactical inconsistency. your brief articles and yoda/rashidi1's stuff should help those people who find RoO too complicated and cleon's approach to tweaky and opponent specific. excellent work guys :thup:

retired_devisserjulie

Does individual player mentality (defensive, normal attacking) dictate only how high up the pitch that player operates? I've been working on the principle that this is true and playing global mentality (except GK), as I thought that this might make the whole team stick closer to each other, work for each other more, and keep possession better. I found my results to be massively better.

retired_hope

[QUOTE]Originally posted by d2024p:
Does individual player mentality (defensive, normal attacking) dictate only how high up the pitch that player operates?
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Yes they will naturally play higher up the pitch relative to the ball and look to be more positive in their choice of who to pass to.

retired_hope

Quite right about RoO, wasn't meant as a critcism of it. Just stating why I prefer global.

RoO as you say is more specialist over a more generalised approach than global. However as the range in mentality even on a RoO is 8 notches, I feel that this is to great a gulf. I want my team to be positve together or conservative together.