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Old 01-26-2005, 04:46 PM   Taking a LLM team all the way to the top...feasible or economically impossible? Post #21
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I have nationality set as English and have Scottish, English and Spanish leagues running. I have had offers from England and Scotland but not Spain!
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Old 01-26-2005, 05:13 PM   Taking a LLM team all the way to the top...feasible or economically impossible? Post #22
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by seamus:
I'm wondering if the "nationality" effect has been lessened in this version. I rarely ever had an offer in 03/04 and I've already had three job offers in FM, and I'm not doing that well. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nope. It's just the same.

I have to beat off English clubs with a stick, but I've not had a spontaneous offer from a Portuguese club. I can only get local jobs if I apply (which is lucky given how often I've been sacked )
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Old 01-26-2005, 05:36 PM   Taking a LLM team all the way to the top...feasible or economically impossible? Post #23
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I still wonder though. Unless Yankee nationality has been rightfully bumped up. :seamus:

But it took ages for me to get offers in 03/04, in fact, I'm not sure I received more than maybe 2 in a 15 year career that saw some trophies and promotions. I've already been offered Scots. First, English league 1 and English League 2 (the only realistic one, which I took. ).
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Old 01-26-2005, 05:41 PM   Taking a LLM team all the way to the top...feasible or economically impossible? Post #24
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Are you implying that the reason no Portuguese clubs have made offers is not my nationality, and it's actually because I'm just a crap manager?
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Old 01-26-2005, 06:53 PM   Taking a LLM team all the way to the top...feasible or economically impossible? Post #25
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I played 7 seasons in Slovenia with slight succes (one promotion); nationality set to Dutch.
Countries running: Italia, Schweiz, Osterreich & Slovenija.
Total number of job offers: 0.
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Old 01-26-2005, 07:13 PM   Taking a LLM team all the way to the top...feasible or economically impossible? Post #26
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by seamus:
I still wonder though. Unless Yankee nationality has been rightfully bumped up. :seamus:
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I don't think it has. I find that the MLS managerial go-round is still not sorted. About half the managers have been sacked in the first season (when IRL you rarely see MLS teams sack managers -- unless they doing absolutely wretched like Dallas in '03 -- because they'd rather not have to pay out the contract). And the MLS sides in FM still have a huge tendency to bring in foreign managers from lower leagues (as an example in my current game Colorado poached Brechin City's manager, and Los Angeles hired a manager from the Israeli 2nd division. Although I got that Israel job, so it worked out for me )
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Old 01-27-2005, 09:01 PM   Taking a LLM team all the way to the top...feasible or economically impossible? Post #27
 
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It's feasible but its a real pain. I took a conferance south team to the championship league. It took 8 seasons. I got lucky with signing some good players and selling some players for good money. However as soon as you hit division 1. The financial restraints really tighten. Your attendance will always be last place by alot cause of your small stadium. No matter what your board wont take out a loan to fix the thing, even though its costing them money not to fix it. In championship my team made about 4-5 million a year in income...Other teams make about 20million. With that income there is no realistic way to make a profit. If you have a good player when his contract is up you might as well kiss him goodbye. Last year i was there the board said they were considering expanding the stadiums. I left the club but they never expanded. Even if they do the max attendance is only 10k anyway which is stupid. Its a shame a cool part of the game, is made so messed up. This is a game and not real life. Yea a team might never get from conferance north or south to champs, but if they did i would bet the city and board would expand their puny 2500 capacity stadium on a loan or something.
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Old 01-28-2005, 06:56 AM   Taking a LLM team all the way to the top...feasible or economically impossible? Post #28
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I could be wrong here, but IRL don't clubs have to be able to meet a certain standard re stadium before they can seek promotion? Perhaps SI could model these rules, that way if your club is in Conf N/S and the ground is not to Champion League you will never reach there.

In my current save I have got a league 2 side to Premiership over 14 seasons but this is in my virew unrealistic as the town the side resides in seems to have more supporters than the total population of the town.

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Old 01-28-2005, 10:20 AM   Taking a LLM team all the way to the top...feasible or economically impossible? Post #29
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by physim:

In my current save I have got a league 2 side to Premiership over 14 seasons but this is in my view unrealistic as the town the side resides in seems to have more supporters than the total population of the town.
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If you were only allowed to support your home town team then ManU would be screwed.
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Old 01-28-2005, 12:35 PM   Taking a LLM team all the way to the top...feasible or economically impossible? Post #30
 
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by iajafer:
Adz iw has covered the real life scenario so I'll have a go at the CM/FM one.

The biggest problem in the game with a meteoric rise to success is that your League position soon outstrips your reputation. I.e., you reach League 1 with the reputation of a Conference South Club and Scouts and Players, and to a great extent your Board, treat you as a Conference Club in that Scouts find players suitable for the Conference and they're way out their depth in League 1.

The Board won't extend your training facilities or ground because, in their AI minds, you've still got the reputation, therefore the position, of a Conference Club.

I used to be a confirmed "one Club to the top" LLaMa, but now I leap from Club to Club like a frog with a cigarette burning its butt. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I didn't realise that my club's reputation would be such a hindering factor in the AI coding. My poor club has only a 'local' reputation. I can see why many tear their hair out in frustration and simply jump ship when a better club comes calling.

I'd be interested to know if such restrictions apply only to human managed clubs and if such 'restrictions' simply fall by the wayside once a computer AI takes over. Because it certainly does not make sense how many clubs in my current league (league 2) with a local reputation and a stadium capacity barely more than mine can afford the exorbitant transfer fees, wages etc (sugar daddy clubs not included).

Realistically I can understand if my chairman would be slightly conservative given we've moved from the Conferences to league 2 in 6 seasons, but surely one would be more willing to spend a tad more. I'm certainly not asking for Premiership or even Championship or League 1 level material. Added to that, the regen system if my understanding of it is accurate simply causes diminishing returns every subsequent year with respect to new players. Its certainly not a 'fun' route.

Well back to locking horns with my chairman and hopefully sparing Ashton Utd. the possible disgrace of being dumped back into the Conferences.

Why do Ass Managers always say "I have no chance of avoiding relegation..."?

Sort it out SI.
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