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Old 01-10-2008, 01:57 PM   The way substitutions work in FM08 are a joke Post #1
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I’ve had 2 problems with it.

1). I made a substitution between two defenders. While it was waiting for a stop in play to make the change, one of my strikers got injured. This was the stop in play, and without asking if I’d like to cancel to substitution now I had an injury, it made it and then took the injured players off. As it was my last change, I had to finish the game with 10 men.

2). I was 4-2 up away from home with 15 mins left. I swapped one midfielder for another, and the break in play was the other team scoring to make it 4-3. I would have liked to have taken a striker off at that point for a defender, but again it made the change without asking me and that was my final substation. I went on to draw 4-4.

It should ask you if you want to cancel the sub you’ve made if things like a goal, injury or red card happen because these are major incidents that affect your tactics, unlike a free kick or throw in. And also that would make it more realistic too.
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Old 01-10-2008, 08:00 PM   The way substitutions work in FM08 are a joke Post #2
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I beleive this is a good point as it can take up to 5 or 6 mins sometimes for your subs or tactical changes to take effect. It would not be a bad idea if while the tatical changes are in limbo waiting for a break in play, if something major happend like an injury or sending off you could ajust your changes just like they do in real life. :thup:
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Old 01-10-2008, 08:08 PM   The way substitutions work in FM08 are a joke Post #3
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both valid and agreed.
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Old 01-10-2008, 08:14 PM   The way substitutions work in FM08 are a joke Post #4
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I had a pending substitution earlier, and one of the players scheduled to be subbed got sent off for a second yellow. The game cancelled both my changes and went to the tactics screen to let me make a change.

So it seems FM is smart enough to let you make a change so long as it's the player coming off who gets his marching orders.
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Old 01-10-2008, 08:17 PM   The way substitutions work in FM08 are a joke Post #5
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Originally posted by monkeymcbain:
I’ve had 2 problems with it.

1). I made a substitution between two defenders. While it was waiting for a stop in play to make the change, one of my strikers got injured. This was the stop in play, and without asking if I’d like to cancel to substitution now I had an injury, it made it and then took the injured players off. As it was my last change, I had to finish the game with 10 men.

2). I was 4-2 up away from home with 15 mins left. I swapped one midfielder for another, and the break in play was the other team scoring to make it 4-3. I would have liked to have taken a striker off at that point for a defender, but again it made the change without asking me and that was my final substation. I went on to draw 4-4.

It should ask you if you want to cancel the sub you’ve made if things like a goal, injury or red card happen because these are major incidents that affect your tactics, unlike a free kick or throw in. And also that would make it more realistic too.
Good point, it's a wonder this hasn't been brought before SI yet, hopefully you've brought it to their attention as it would certainly strengthen the game. :thup:
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Old 01-10-2008, 08:21 PM   The way substitutions work in FM08 are a joke Post #6
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Originally posted by grahamf:
I had a pending substitution earlier, and one of the players scheduled to be subbed got sent off for a second yellow. The game cancelled both my changes and went to the tactics screen to let me make a change.

So it seems FM is smart enough to let you make a change so long as it's the player coming off who gets his marching orders.
Thats all fine and good, so why cant it do this for any other scenario.
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Old 01-10-2008, 08:34 PM   The way substitutions work in FM08 are a joke Post #7
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i dont like the subs stuff this year either, BUT i think its the most realistic it has evevevevevevevrvrvrvrvvevvrrvvrer been!
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For all the other complaints, one of worst and most unrealistic parts of the game is the fact you can't alter tactical changes after clicking 'confirm'.
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For all the other complaints, one of worst and most unrealistic parts of the game is the fact you can't alter tactical changes after clicking 'confirm'.
You can, although it's not clear. Click on your team name in the scoreboard up the top of the screen and you will be taken to the tactics screen, allowing you to make changes.
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For all the other complaints, one of worst and most unrealistic parts of the game is the fact you can't alter tactical changes after clicking 'confirm'.
Spot on. I like new features in every fm game, but sometimes its the refinement of the existing features that can make it a better game, and this is one such area that needs refining.
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