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Old 03-18-2007, 08:21 PM   The Hottest Discussion ATM - Dolfin Bottoms Post #11
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i am favouring the tight/non specific man marking aproach on a back 4 at the moment. As I mentioned in a previous thread I am even playing without a defensive mdfielder, attacking with 6 players in effect, and still keeping clean sheets. The back four don't make any forward runs, and close down rarely (with a DL of between 9-11 depending on the opposition) Easily the best system i have tried so far on FM 2007 :thup:
Jep - Sorry to sound stupid, does this mean you use Man Marking ticked or no Man Marking?
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by jep:
i am favouring the tight/non specific man marking aproach on a back 4 at the moment. As I mentioned in a previous thread I am even playing without a defensive mdfielder, attacking with 6 players in effect, and still keeping clean sheets. The back four don't make any forward runs, and close down rarely (with a DL of between 9-11 depending on the opposition) Easily the best system i have tried so far on FM 2007 :thup:
Jep - Sorry to sound stupid, does this mean you use Man Marking ticked or no Man Marking? </BLOCKQUOTE>

I have the defenders all on man marking, but I don't ask them to specifically mark a particular player on the opposing team.
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Old 03-18-2007, 09:51 PM   The Hottest Discussion ATM - Dolfin Bottoms Post #13
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Cheers - Will give it a go, never get my defending correct
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Old 03-18-2007, 10:42 PM   The Hottest Discussion ATM - Dolfin Bottoms Post #14
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Back four on same mentality - A more recent one I've seen around which Jep uses. IIRC he has for quite some time but he can correct me on that one.
Still use that yes - it helps to keep the defence together as a unit, and with closing down on roughly the same too they form a nice solid wall :thup: </BLOCKQUOTE>

Still haven't gotten my comp yet but I'm just thinking, would it not be more beneficial if you had the fullbacks on a bit more CD because if you think about it, in a back four the fullbacks tuck in to help the central defenders and if the CD isn't high enough on the fullbacks they might not get out to a winger quick enough. Again correct me if I'm wrong because I have not tried it out myself.
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Back four on same mentality - A more recent one I've seen around which Jep uses. IIRC he has for quite some time but he can correct me on that one.
Still use that yes - it helps to keep the defence together as a unit, and with closing down on roughly the same too they form a nice solid wall :thup: </BLOCKQUOTE>

Still haven't gotten my comp yet but I'm just thinking, would it not be more beneficial if you had the fullbacks on a bit more CD because if you think about it, in a back four the fullbacks tuck in to help the central defenders and if the CD isn't high enough on the fullbacks they might not get out to a winger quick enough. Again correct me if I'm wrong because I have not tried it out myself. </BLOCKQUOTE>

I originally tried it out with the FB's on higher closing down (10) but I found that it left gaps between the full back and centre back which the opposition exploited. With the defence being on tight marking anyway, i find they still get close enough to the opposition winger, whilst also performing a handy covering role for the central defenders if they get drawn out of position.
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hmm.. Maybe try out dropping tight marking for fullbacks and up their CD to 10?
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hmm.. Maybe try out dropping tight marking for fullbacks and up their CD to 10?
I am too much of a fan of tight marking atm to do that

I definitely think that low closing down and tight marking is much more secure than a higher closing down and loose marking system - I dont think I will change after seeing my loose marking/high closing down defensive systems get slaughtered by top sides with attackers who have superb off the ball stats
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I always want to give tight man marking a go as with zonal marking too often someone runs in behind the defence and he doesn't get picked up.

However..........

Full backs: if I was using tight man marking, would this mean that my full backs would follow the opposition wingers wherever they go? I wouldn't want them going to high up the pitch and being dragged out of position. Do people know and had success with this?

The same applies with the centre backs, do they still remain in their zones enough with tight man markin?
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I always want to give tight man marking a go as with zonal marking too often someone runs in behind the defence and he doesn't get picked up.

However..........

Full backs: if I was using tight man marking, would this mean that my full backs would follow the opposition wingers wherever they go? I wouldn't want them going to high up the pitch and being dragged out of position. Do people know and had success with this?

The same applies with the centre backs, do they still remain in their zones enough with tight man markin?
The FB won't follow the winger as his first instruction will be to stay with the d-line. However, as most wingers push up (4-4-2 long farrows) to play alongside the forwards he will be picked up as soon as he reaches the apex of the farrow.

If you put the defenders on high closing down they are much more likely to be pulled out fo position. However, if they are on low closing down they should hold, as jep points out.
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has anyone tried jep theory with a dmc? any idea if its best to go man marking with that or zonal?
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