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Old 01-09-2008, 07:35 AM   Better talents from academy! Post #1
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I was thinkin', my own academy isn't really producing many great talents.

I have finally nagged the board into builing me some top facilities and my coaches are all 7 star!
Will it make a difference if I ignore my board and hire a bunch of top notch youth coaches with good stats?
Over 5-6 seasons only one player has been recomended by my assistant as "one of the best of his generation". But normally he just single out the best of the batch, which is rubbish anyway!

What should I do?
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Old 01-09-2008, 09:00 AM   Better talents from academy! Post #2
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Well of course it helps having the best of everything in terms of coaches and training/youth facilities but you can't expect them to give you a crop of excellent youth every year, just doesn't happen. I'm at Barca and after my first season I did get a batch of youth out of which one player (a DC) was recommended as one of the best of his generation, which is the best kind of praise a youngster can get I believe. The five years after that I still get a player recommended to me but it's more like "he's one of the better players to come out of the academy in recent years", so this means he'll be a good player but most like not world class by any means.
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Old 01-09-2008, 09:14 AM   Better talents from academy! Post #3
 
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I have been playing with Juventus for seven seasons now. I have a world-class youth academy, 7-star youth coaches all-round and top training facilities. The outcome...

Unfortunately the game does not have the option to rename my youth academy to "Juventus academy for players who are not-so-gifted, perhaps mildly retarded and also blind." In other words, I have yet to produce a young player who is anywhere near the standard to EVER play for my first-team.

In addition, you can probably ignore your assitant's report on whether a player is "one of the better players", "one of the best of his generation" or "the best in recent years". Since the 8.0.1 patch coaches are practically clueless on a player's potnetial even with judging player potential 20. It therefore becomes a lottery to decide whether a youth player will ever develop to be a good senior player.

However, to be fair, player personality and work rate do make a HUGE difference in whether players develop. A very determined youth player with a high work rate tends to improve rapidly. The only porblem is the player may not have the potential to start for Albino Leffe reserves once he reaches his peak.
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Old 01-09-2008, 09:17 AM   Better talents from academy! Post #4
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1) You have to improve your youth facilities as much as possible. It really makes a difference. Also, you should improve your training facilities, but you said you 've already done that.

2) The assistant may often be wrong. Having played 7 seasons now, I have realised that sometimes it's another youngster who makes it and not the one the assistant thought. Or, often, more than one. So pay attention to all youngsters who look promising to you.

3) You will notice that some youngsters find youth training too heavy, especially when they first come to your academy. This can be a disaster, as their CA and their attributes may start dropping.
Design specific training schedules for these youths, whith slightly less physical training. Two points reduction in aerobic and strength may do. Keep an eye on them for at least the first two months. If their training levels go up, you may be able to return them to normal training.

4) Tutoring helps youngsters a great deal, as it can make them more professional, ambitious and determined. Unless they already have a nice personality description, you should tutor them by somebody spirited, resilient, professional, determined, light hearted or something like that.
Make sure the tutor always has greater determination than the learner. If you are using editors, make also sure that the tutor has greater professionalism and pressure too.

5) Give playing time to the promising youngsters, when you can afford it. It really motives them. If you can't, loan them out when they are 17-19 to somewhere they will play first team.
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Old 01-09-2008, 09:21 AM   Better talents from academy! Post #5
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BTW, doing all that, I usually get 1 player/year to play for my first team. But I really spend a lot of time taking care of my youngsters.
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Old 01-09-2008, 09:22 AM   Better talents from academy! Post #6
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Those are good points Lyssien, but how long do you think a youngster should spend in youth training? I usually move them into regular training when they turn 17 or 18. What do you recommend?
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They are automatically moved to regular training when you give them a professional contract (which you are prompted by the game to do when they turn 17).
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If tutoring improve consistence and important matches attributes?

They are not related to personality but are quite impostant.
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I believe consistency and imp. matches are improved with age and the amount of matches they've played.
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Old 01-09-2008, 01:27 PM   Better talents from academy! Post #10
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Originally posted by Ghost Rider:
I was thinkin', my own academy isn't really producing many great talents.

I have finally nagged the board into builing me some top facilities and my coaches are all 7 star!
Will it make a difference if I ignore my board and hire a bunch of top notch youth coaches with good stats?
Over 5-6 seasons only one player has been recomended by my assistant as "one of the best of his generation". But normally he just single out the best of the batch, which is rubbish anyway!

What should I do?
Where is the problem? I have top facilities, academy and coaches, and I never had a "one of the best of his generation". Look at better clubs in Europe, how many of them have had a "one of the best of his generation" younger in the last 5 seasons from their academy? Arsenal has great young players, but they dind't came from its own academy. It's not easy to have one of these, in fact some seasons I don't have any young player that could ever player in my current division :/
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