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Old 01-25-2005, 02:53 PM   Do "selling clubs" exist any more? Post #1
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In the past, lots of lower level clubs have balanced their books by regularly shipping out players. Crewe still fall into that category IRL, but is this dying out?

Which brings me to my question. Have you managed to be a selling club in FM? My experience suggests that it's not a viable practice. If it isn't possible in FM, should it be?
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Old 01-25-2005, 02:59 PM   Do "selling clubs" exist any more? Post #2
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Sellable club. In FM? I didn't manage to sell a single player. :eek:
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Old 01-25-2005, 03:20 PM   Do "selling clubs" exist any more? Post #3
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FM seems fairly realistic in this regard. You're unlikely to get any cash for a player over 25 but bigger clubs do seem prepared to spend to obtain promising youngsters.

In terms of profit making, this (largely) depends on maintenance costs, operating within your wage budget and whether you like to spend or wait for the Bosman months.

As you play in Portugal, you've probably got a maintenance eating 20,000 capacity stadium; where profits are impossible until promotion. The 5k max stadia of Conf N/S are superior for short term book balancing.
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Old 01-25-2005, 03:23 PM   Do "selling clubs" exist any more? Post #4
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CM3 series had a number of non-league clubs notorious for churning out talent, I don't find that that's the case now.

I find it hard to sell the players that I want to get rid of in FM
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Old 01-25-2005, 03:29 PM   Do "selling clubs" exist any more? Post #5
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by artauduck:
FM seems fairly realistic in this regard. You're unlikely to get any cash for a player over 25 but bigger clubs do seem prepared to spend to obtain promising youngsters.

In terms of profit making, this (largely) depends on maintenance costs, operating within your wage budget and whether you like to spend or wait for the Bosman months.

As you play in Portugal, you've probably got a maintenance eating 20,000 capacity stadium; where profits are impossible until promotion. The 5k max stadia of Conf N/S are superior for short term book balancing. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Do you get good enough young players coming through to sell for healthy sums? Ignoring book balancing for a second, I'd have to say that it's difficult for me to sell good players on for large fees. The really good ones I've had have been content to wait out their contract and bugger off on a Bosman, and the big clubs have waited for them to do it.

Now, I'm not sure about the compensation rules in Portugal - do you still make a decent fee off these kids in England due to the U-24 compensation deal?
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Serie C1 and c2 have had a few of the teams churn out some talent, but the few clubs i've been at the only thing you get is the co-ownership
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Old 01-25-2005, 03:32 PM   Do "selling clubs" exist any more? Post #7
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Yes, what Duck and Michal said. It's nigh on impossible to flog the deadwood now, so long-term contracts are suicidal. Add to this the ridiculous wages the AI pays to back-up players, and you have a recipe for disaster in your hands.

The only players i've ever sold in FM were those that i didn't want to sell . Although it takes the AI clubs awfully long to offer something over a player's face value, let alone the minimum fee release clause.
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Old 01-25-2005, 03:34 PM   Do "selling clubs" exist any more? Post #8
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jcb23:


Do you get good enough young players coming through to sell for healthy sums? Ignoring book balancing for a second, I'd have to say that it's difficult for me to sell good players on for large fees. The really good ones I've had have been content to wait out their contract and bugger off on a Bosman, and the big clubs have waited for them to do it.

Now, I'm not sure about the compensation rules in Portugal - do you still make a decent fee off these kids in England due to the U-24 compensation deal? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Julian, i suspect the compensation deal doesn't exist in Portugal. And in England, you usually receive the player's "face" value as compensation, if he's U-24 ofc.
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The compensation ruling doesn't really matter as the majority leave on a free before they've found a new club.

You might not get the price or terms you want but if they won't sign a new contract, it seems possible to offload a few (say 20%) of them for cash. Also depends on how good your scouts are at finding uncontracted youth players, in the first place.
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I find it's one of the big problems in CM/FM, the inability to offload players (especially when you adopt my "sign 'em all" policy).

No-one bids, no-one accepts even £0 offers to offload players, but as soon as you move on to pastures new you look back at your old Club's transfer screen and they've sold about 75% of your old squad, and made a profit.

SortitoutSI!!!
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