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Old 03-23-2007, 02:12 PM   A Really Good Defence with a Fast Breaking attack. Post #1
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I have created a tactic which has had good luck so far with liverpool. I know they are one of the big four, but they are the bottom imo of these big clubs.

After using a 4-4-2 most of my time I decided to create something different.

Always liking the protection a DMC gives me I had my defensive players. Having to sacrifice a player for the extra dmc, I decided to sacrifice a forward. Thinking he might be isolated up there on his own I gave him support with an AMC. That left me with 3 midfielders. So it was either 2 wingers and a mc or 3 cms. Thinking that I should concentrate on ampliflying my assets rather than trying to cover my weaknesses, I decided 3 cms and would play up the middle.

When considering my mentalitys I decided upon 5 players defensive, 5 players attack like Arsenal play in real life. Also when creating my defence I thought about the weaknesses I had noticed in previous games. One of these were Fast pacey strikers like bent, doyle, martins, tevez running onto through balls and banging the goals in.
I therefore Pushed my defence up pretty high and ticked play offside. I thought that if these players are going to break through, at least they still have half the pitch to run. (I know teams in real life only push up when winning after scoring on the counter early on but like I cba with that!).
Also what I had noticed was in most of the tactics I had used or downloaded, the centre backs seemed to back off to thier own area. I decided to give them high closing down and hard tackling. I thought that it was worth a penalty every few games compared to the goals that I would leak. Also with my defence pushed up most fouls would be outside the box.
I also gave my full backs hard tackling, wingers legs break easily.

My DMC Is ultra defensive too with hard tackling. The 3 centre midfielders have quite attacking mentalities, high closing down (I think teams should all close down as a unit or gaps appears. I them through balls normal and crossing never. I have also tried the middle of the centre midfield a playmaker but have not really seen any difference in football as results still go my way. Im thinking of using him as a play maker because where in a 4 4 2 direct football tactic, the football can be too spread out and the 1 cm who is not a hard tackler who is playmaker, gets a bit lost.

The Amc I regarded as a forward and the SC out and out striker. The amc has long shooting enabled because although this can result in fewer close range shots, In past games I have found Long shots from every angle can be vital in winning matches when the strikers are having off days.

Starting the season planning to play 2 amc before i had this tactical brainstorm, I was a bit naive in the transfer market buying Del Piero and Cassano and Luis Adriano. This game was to test a tactic and I didnt want to waste time buying players or coaching staff.

Having lost the charity sheild with another tactic against Chelsea, I decided to give this one ago after testing it with a friend earlier who had gone to bed. These are my results so far.

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/6461/resultsur1.png

As you can see I have won every game apart from away to fulham which I should have easily won (Liverpool wont believe they lost this) and Charlton away which I drew (Charlton will take this). My best results where the 5-1 victory against wigan where gerrard got 5 goals (1 an own goal!) Arsenal I beat 2-1 away and Utd 2-0 at home (Utd have hardly had a look in).

Also of note is that Gerrard has 7 goals in 7 before getting a long term injury. Cassano is a long term injury, Del Piero long term and Maschereno is injured for a while. Remember reader that I havent concentrated in the transfer market and lack cover. Bellamy has been a revelation as an amc getting 8 goals in 10 games so far.

This is the team formation.

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/462/formationgo1.png

The best thing about this formation is the defence. No more silly goals and winning the ball in midfield. The opposition rarely get a look in. I play the same home and away and manage to score too.

This is where the tactic can be found.

http://www.fmdownloads.net/index.php?

I know I havent played a whole season to test this formation, but I dont have the mentality to play a whole season testing it. Please feel free to give it a try I would like feedback on it from lower club managers.

It is also to use as an example and to give ideas to managers who leak goals via 1 on 1s and striker clean through. You can see the opposition players attempting to do this but getting barged off the ball.
I would really like it if someone adapted the defence to a 4 4 2 or 4 3 3. I dont have the mentality to commit myself to testing formation after formation, but this tactic works and I know why.
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Old 03-23-2007, 02:16 PM   A Really Good Defence with a Fast Breaking attack. Post #2
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O yes, I would like opinions on an away formation from managers of the smaller clubs.
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Old 03-23-2007, 02:55 PM   A Really Good Defence with a Fast Breaking attack. Post #3
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i have a 4-4-2 general tactic which is only customized on my players and rarely use anymore

now a play 2 tactics somewhat similar to yours:
the 4-1-3-2 Defending with high tackling an closing and the 4-3-1-2 Attacking which is more opponent friendly and more technical.

when i tried a 4-1-3-1-1 tactic like yours my players were really tired at half time

i'll try yours to see what happens, hope to reply - but only if it's working....
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Old 03-23-2007, 02:58 PM   A Really Good Defence with a Fast Breaking attack. Post #4
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Im not struggling from tiredness, but lots of injuries. Hope to hear from you soon.

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Old 03-23-2007, 03:02 PM   A Really Good Defence with a Fast Breaking attack. Post #5
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Btw im only after ideas, not to say my tactic is great or anything. I know it needs improving (even if Im getting 57% possession away from home).
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Old 03-23-2007, 03:08 PM   A Really Good Defence with a Fast Breaking attack. Post #6
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how well does bellamy do from AMC?

Personally I would have the hard working Kuyt there and Bellamy as the FC getting behind defenders.

also where is the majority of play? are you playing from your own half and countering, or are you passing around in their half?
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Old 03-23-2007, 03:13 PM   A Really Good Defence with a Fast Breaking attack. Post #7
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Bellamy is my leading goal scorer and kuyt has a bout 6 too, mostly tap ins.

Against easy opposition I run them ragged, tackling over the pitch and breaking.

For the harder opponents its breaking down thier attacks in my own half and countering.
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Old 03-23-2007, 07:09 PM   A Really Good Defence with a Fast Breaking attack. Post #8
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Using my defensive mentalities I just beat Arsenal 4 0 away from home in the champions league but this time with a 4 3 3. Will keep updates.
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Old 03-23-2007, 10:54 PM   A Really Good Defence with a Fast Breaking attack. Post #9
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A classic!

That is the same tactic I used in in fm2005(?).
Should really give it a try, but since I already have a lot of wingers, maybe with 2 mc's having arrows to aml and amr.

Will get back to you with results later
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Old 03-24-2007, 11:26 AM   A Really Good Defence with a Fast Breaking attack. Post #10
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I have changed and attapted my formation to a 4 3 3. Playing as West Ham I have played 4 games won 4 so far although yet to play the hard games. Manager of the month and player of the month for tevez the player getting 7 goals in 4 games.

I have also made an away tactic which is more defensive.

I have some questions if anyone can help me.

What are the pros if any of playing the centrebacks man marking and tight marking and what are the cons?

I have heard that away from home I should play fast and at home slow. I understand that fast is better for counter attack, but Im having great success at home while winning away 3-2 at times. Does anyone have any threads or knowledge on if I should play slow tempo at home or away?

I tackle hard and this is the basis for my mentality. Yet my players are getting tired fast. Other than subbing them, is there away to get the mad heads to calm down?
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