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01-08-2008, 03:43 PM
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Is this *mission impossible*? Post #21 | | Joe Blow
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Originally posted by GAVIN42:
yes but the fact is at this moment in time and the forseeable future (ak 10 years) Man Utd are not going to fail to qualify in the Champions League...
| That's not strictly true (although I do hope it's the case).
The Glazer's thing is a common misconception as people seem to have this image of Leeds in their minds and what happened to them when they missed out on the Champions League.
The difference is that UTD are a global marketing pr machine and whilst one season would dent them considerably it would never have the impact that occurred at Leeds. 70k seats filled 50 times a season at £40 a pop, shirt sales all over the world, the Manchester UTD logo etc etc would constantly pay the loan and this has been demonstrated as winning only the Premier League last season and further rounds of CL accounted for a record turnover, loan et al.
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01-08-2008, 06:34 PM
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Is this *mission impossible*? Post #22 | | Newb
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Originally posted by Gypsum:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Nomis07:
The youth system of UTD would still be in place because they have top youth setup and training facilities, these cannot be reduced or deteriorate.
| That's what I would have thought.
Could be interesting then. Getting Man Utd back to the top by using their youth system and a few free transfers. I suppose you wouldn't have a problem getting some older stars to come to the club with its reputation. But holding on to any good youngsters could be a problem if offers start coming in. </BLOCKQUOTE>
Honestly, it sounds like one of the most fun challenges I've heard of in years. :thup:
You might build up a huge following if you posted your save game to some file-share somewhere and posted "Win the C.L. with Man U... starting with this save game," to one of the challenge threads.
Personally, I'd be very interested to hear your progress, if you do take over: I'm very interested to know what the board expect of you.
If you decide to go for it, and keep us posted, please give us the board's short-term and long-term expectations each season, plus an annual snapshot of the financial situation.
Looking forward to hearing about it! :thup:
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01-08-2008, 06:36 PM
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Is this *mission impossible*? Post #23 | | Newb
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Originally posted by Amaroq:
.. and posted "Win the C.L. with Man U... starting with this save game," to <STRIKE>one of the challenge threads</STRIKE> [B]the challenge forum.
| Corrected for precision; I so wish I could edit! |
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01-08-2008, 06:43 PM
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Is this *mission impossible*? Post #24 | | Newb
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Why do you want to restore them to their former glories? It would be much more satisfying to see how low they could sink, and then take them over and see if you could do any more damage to them.
Not that I dislike them or anything....
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01-08-2008, 07:19 PM
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Is this *mission impossible*? Post #25 | | Registered User
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That sounds like a quality challenge, well worth it.
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01-08-2008, 08:14 PM
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Is this *mission impossible*? Post #26 | | Registered User
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Originally posted by Nomis07:
Clubs can go into administration but i've never seen them deducted points. A new buyer and chairman comes in and gives new money to spend although usually not much.
The youth system of UTD would still be in place because they have top youth setup and training facilities, these cannot be reduced or deteriorate.
| In mine, they were deducted points in 2019 for going into administration, and one of the Glazers on the board then took over. They barely escaped relegation the season after (when my Merthyr Tydfil team came up), and were eventually then taken over again by a different board member who finally cleared most of their debt. Feb 2023 they're Rich again with only £39m loan outstanding but are 19th and looking very, very lost.
For about 6 or 7 seasons now theyve barely scraped out of relegation, last year by a single point after winning on the final day. Theres 4 points in it now, knowing their luck they'll probably escape AGAIN.
Incidentally, Portsmouth went bankrupt in the Championship and completely shut down all of their youth academies, they had "no youth facilities" for two seasons until they were Premiership again. They're still only minimal.
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01-08-2008, 09:05 PM
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Is this *mission impossible*? Post #27 | | Newb
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Originally posted by Nomis07:
The youth system of UTD would still be in place because they have top youth setup and training facilities, these cannot be reduced or deteriorate.
| Surely the stadium and training facilites would deteriorate after time if the club doesn't have to maintain them properly?
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01-08-2008, 09:05 PM
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Is this *mission impossible*? Post #28 | | Newb
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Originally posted by vanpersie11:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Nomis07:
The youth system of UTD would still be in place because they have top youth setup and training facilities, these cannot be reduced or deteriorate.
| Surely the stadium and training facilites would deteriorate after time if the club doesn't have the money to maintain them properly? </BLOCKQUOTE>
Woops!
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01-08-2008, 09:15 PM
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Is this *mission impossible*? Post #29 | | Registered User
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As I just said, youth facilities can be shut down for definate, as happened to Portsmouth, and I know in past versions of the game the stadium's capacity was gradually reduced too. I think that might have been removed though after the debacle with Queen's Park and Hampden.
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01-08-2008, 09:42 PM
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Is this *mission impossible*? Post #30 | | Newb
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ok guys season ended, so i decided to go ahead with this challenge. i want to add the quality of the players is really poor, poorer than most teams in championship and it will be a huge struggle just to get promoted and fight against relegation...
Financially, i decided to become very shrewd...
1) i wont spend anything over US$5m for any player, most likely options will be upcoming regens.
2) i will bring in dozen or so youngsters with great potential so they will be ready in 3-4 seasons, i might not be able to hold onto them but i should at least half and would be able to quality for europe
their min. expectation this season is to win the championship, long term they expect me to quality for european champions league in 4 seasons (unrealistic at this stage)
Will keep you updated....
;-)
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