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i was reading through a couple of threads, notably the arsenal one in the data issues forum....and i was lead to beleive that the jumping stat rather than height is the issue regarding who wins the ball first aerially rather than height being an important factor!
it is a strange issue because there are tremendous small players like sagna for example who can leap and have a great jump on them! but the stat cant be upped because it means they will outjump the crouches of this world!
now, how can zigic be beaten to the ball aerially by a smaller defender when hes about 6'9?
surely the game has to take into account height (if it doesnt) or is it too hard to implement?
I would say height is not an issue. It's just a fact, rather than a stat. Just like being born in Cardiff doesn't contribute to your game, it's just a stat. Heading and jumping are the ones you should look at, along with maybe agility? I dunno.
I never look at height as I would expect most defenders to be 6 ft-ish anyway.
6'9 doesn't mean he's going to be good at heading. Peter Crouch is a good bit taller than a lot of Premiership defenders but isn't winning all the headers. Also Jan Koller against Northern Ireland a couple of seasons ago Aaron Hughes had him in his back picket and noticeably smaller (I think Koller was near 6'9).
Of course he's going to be beaten to the ball, it's football. Otherwise he would win every header he ever attempted and there is no chance on earth that that is going to happen.
Compare it to a keeper who is 6'4 and can catch a cross so has the added extension of his arms and he jumps and still gets beaten to the ball by 6ft defenders and strikers.
It's entirely possible.
In game though it would be dificult to tell and even if Zigic was supposed to win most headers you couldn't tell if he lost out because of good defensive position stealing in, in front of him, because of the 2d system.
when i bought zigic for arsenal once he diddnt win as many headers as i thought he would! was quite low match to match, sometimes less than 30% or so out of attempted! but i made him a target man and tm feed was to head
Originally posted by thebigman1985:
i just think height should be an issue myself
Height is an issue; it is used (partly) to determine the jumping attribute. Jumping effectively measures the maximum height that a player can achieve. So Peter Crouch, who is tall but can't really jump very well, would have a similar jumping stat to someone who is shorter but can jump higher, if they reach roughly the same height.
The answer is that "jumping" is used to determine how high a player can get to a ball.
Height is used as a control on the development of the jumping attribute through a player's career, but is not actually used in the match engine calculations.
is height an important stat in fm? 
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