+++First Tactic With Sweeper On FM 2007+++Discussion

retired_angel_ica · 03-13-2007, 12:57 PM

Hello ALL

Encouraghed by Rijkard tactic in last barcelona game against Madrid, i decide to create new version tactic.

It is 343.

Available to download- 343 tactic

Btw

i have another team to my list ( team who played 3 man in back )

1. Ajax
2. National team Scotland
3. Liverpool ( i`m intersted how they will play tomorrow )
4. Cracovia ( first division in Poland)
5. Aberdeen
6. Rapid Bukarest
7. CSKA Moskow ( win Uefa cup with 3412 formation)
8. Barcelona
Loking for other two teams
Any helps?

Ok, give me fedback how work 343 formation

Regards

retired_steevo93 · 03-13-2007, 02:37 PM

Gabi;

I'm invading your thread!

If you look at this forum, you'll see I've created a thread about Ezio Glerean, who you might find interesting. He specialises in the 3-3-4 formation, which is loosely based on Louis Van Gaal and Ajax's Champions League-winning 3-4-3.

I'm trying to create the 3-3-4 on FM, but it's extremely hard as there are no fullbacks or wingbacks, so the midfielders have to close down the wings. If you'd like to help me work on it, feel free to MSN me. I've done a little bit of coaching myself, but nothing like the level you're at, so I'd love to learn a few things. If you have any coaching literature in Polish, I can get it translated by my ex girlfriend, who is a Pole!

Meanwhile, about your list: How can you make a definitive list of teams who played 3 at the back without including Franz Beckenbauer's Germany? He pretty much invented the role of the attacking sweeper, which was fundamental to the emergence of 3-5-2. Other German teams, such as Borussia Dortmund with Mattias Sammer playing that role, are worth looking at as well.

With the team I coached earlier this season, I chose a 3-4-1-2 formation, because I agree that 3 at the back can be just as efficient as 4, as long as the wingers/wingbacks do their job properly. This gives you an extra man (the '1') with which to trouble the opposing back line.

Anyway. Feel free to get in touch, or to storm the Glerean thread!

Cheers

retired_angel_ica · 03-13-2007, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ceefax the cat:
Gabi;

I'm invading your thread!

If you look at this forum, you'll see I've created a thread about Ezio Glerean, who you might find interesting. He specialises in the 3-3-4 formation, which is loosely based on Louis Van Gaal and Ajax's Champions League-winning 3-4-3.

I'm trying to create the 3-3-4 on FM, but it's extremely hard as there are no fullbacks or wingbacks, so the midfielders have to close down the wings. If you'd like to help me work on it, feel free to MSN me. I've done a little bit of coaching myself, but nothing like the level you're at, so I'd love to learn a few things. If you have any coaching literature in Polish, I can get it translated by my ex girlfriend, who is a Pole!

Meanwhile, about your list: How can you make a definitive list of teams who played 3 at the back without including Franz Beckenbauer's Germany? He pretty much invented the role of the attacking sweeper, which was fundamental to the emergence of 3-5-2. Other German teams, such as Borussia Dortmund with Mattias Sammer playing that role, are worth looking at as well.

With the team I coached earlier this season, I chose a 3-4-1-2 formation, because I agree that 3 at the back can be just as efficient as 4, as long as the wingers/wingbacks do their job properly. This gives you an extra man (the '1') with which to trouble the opposing back line.

Anyway. Feel free to get in touch, or to storm the Glerean thread!

Cheers

hello!!!

un real life i`m coach in polandclub- gks katowice , boys who bored in 1995 year. My style of play is 343 formation. Some coaches ( specialy old grups in the club ) tell me that i`m oldschool coaches ( they played 442) but when barcaand liverpool p[layed this system (343) they was very suprised. Two weeks ago i was on coach conference, and i found out that 3 man in back will be most popular in near future. I vave 100000 magazinsabout football and coaching all in polish languae. Becouse i win everything with blackburn wit my new 343, i work about new tactic. I want to play in FM, that style as my boys playing in real life. So it looks something like this:

I wrilly must to say that first 6 games was terible. Wingers are unmarking, si i decide to changes somethings:

1. I give high cd for 2 DCs ( with sarrows)-13
2. I decide to take off mam marking to this two guys

So, now when wingers rining to the flanks, one Dc goes to him, sweper goees to strikers and the second dc goes to second striker. One wingers was unmarkin, but he is on not danger are, so when first wingers try to pass to second wingers, my Dc who must great heading and jumping clear the ball safety!! Now defence are very strong!!!

I just love system with 3 man in back and after barca-real game, noone can tell me that this is old formation.

Sorry for terible english!!!
343 rules!!!

barefootboo · 03-14-2007, 05:21 AM

Also notable is Australia in the world cup used 3-5-2 which turned eventually turned into a 2-3-5 when they were chasing a goal, and this is by the coach who is widely considered to be the best in tha last couple of years Guus Hiddink

I seem to recall the Brazillian national team playing 3-5-2 not long ago, not really sure of it though

In Sweden 3-5-2 and 3-4-3 and even 4-3-3 sometimes are frowned upon for being unbalanced, that is why I like them

trying to get a 3-4-3 system to work myself, but no luck thus far...

found some info in wikipedia... I was correct Brazil won the World Cup in 2002 using a 3-5-2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formation_(football)

barefootboo · 03-14-2007, 06:08 AM

also Mexico played 3-4-3 during the world cup, although they did crap they did have bursts of great play.

retired_chua kim nio · 03-14-2007, 07:23 AM

Alberto Zaccheroni was playing 3-4-3 with Torino in Serie A.

retired_angel_ica · 03-14-2007, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by timpino:
also Mexico played 3-4-3 during the world cup, although they did crap they did have bursts of great play.

mexico played 343? in the last world cup? i don`t remember?

barefootboo · 03-14-2007, 12:33 PM

yeah, Marquez played an attacking right back in a backline of 3... pretty stupid imo, but he was their passing specialist really

they did really well in their first game I think and then their lack of skill showed and the gaps in defence became apparent, may have switched to a 3-5-2 by their latest games, but did start the tournament with 3 narrow going to wide defenders when attacking, can't remember if it was 1 or 2 holding midfielders the rest of their midfield was attacking and their front guys played more or less a narrow game but with one big targetman in the middle and two faster strikers on the sides of him

retired_angel_ica · 03-16-2007, 02:05 PM

over 100 downloads my new 343

any records?

retired_chick · 03-17-2007, 01:09 AM

Gabi - Sorry, didn't work for me. Tried it with Rangers team and lost first 3 games, then drew 1 then lost again, it was letting the opposition get far too much chances.

I saw a good formation on another forum, which may be interesting to make though, it will be to your liking as it involved a sweeper.

It is the Ajax system, it looks like:

GK
SW
CB-CB
DMC
MC-MC
AMC
AML
AMR
SC

But apparently it would not work in FM 2007 as it would leave too much space down the wings.

+++First Tactic With Sweeper On FM 2007+++Discussion

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+++First Tactic With Sweeper On FM 2007+++Discussion