Rickooko

First of all i am not sure if this is really a bug so i try to post in GQ section.

What i have noticed is, at the end of each German league season, there is a random drop in German club reputation.

You can easily check this out if you are playing in the German league. Everytime you complete the season, make a save at around 25-May and record the reputation of the top teams such as Werder Bremen, HSV and Schalke (They all have continental reputation at the beginning of game, it will be better if you use FFM so you can record the exact reputation they got)

Then, after 1-June, you check again with these clubs you will notice they drop 200~300 reputation points for no reason.

This is something different from the reputation adjustment according with the finished league position, which only happened for the new season while the game update with a clean new league table.

I have find this issue in FM07 after 10 seasons i notice all Germany club only have "National" as club reputation. Then i monitoring the game with FFM and find out this cause AND this reputation drop bug ONLY apply onto German clubs.

And now in FM08 i monitoring the reputation and again i spot the same bug applying on German clubs only.

With this bug after a few season the German clubs will be totally out of business as they can no longer keep or get good players with decreasing club reputation.

I really cant explain why this bug only occur on German clubs?

Rickooko

And i might need some support on this issue to prove it is not only for my games. (it somehow happens in all of my games in fm07 and 08, so i believe it should be a unnoticed common issue)

If would be great if you can check this out if you are playing the german league currently. Thank you.

Fantazm

You may be onto something here. I'm currently in the 2013/14 season and all the German top division teams' reputation is 'National' apart from Bayern who are 'Continental'.

Dortmund even won the UEFA Cup about 4-5 seasons ago which makes their reputation quite baffling.

Oktober

I've seen it mentioned regards to France before. The teams are set with a reputation higher than the league, so after a season and its all calculated automatically, big teams in France and Germany particularly suffer reputation drops. I think someone worked out it was possible to win everything, Champions League and all with Lyon before and still have reputation go down.

Rickooko

Exactly, in FM07 i was playing as Werder Bremen and win 7 league title and 4 champion league clubs. But somehow my club reputation stay national with all other german clubs. Thats why i start to monitoring the club reputation with FFM and find out why.

However, i think this is not entirely true as the reputation drop happen in some random way.

At the end of each season i will record all the club reputation among the 18 german clubs in the first division. Then after 1-june, i check it again and notice some clubs have major drop like 200~300 points, BUT SOME CLUBS WONT DROP AT ALL .

In fm08, In my first season, Schalke among some other smaller team didnt suffer from the drop but Bayern, Bremen, HSV, Dortmund, Hertha all drop like 200~300 points each.

But down from my fm07 experience this thing is still random. For example even Schalke dont suffer from the reputation drop this season, they might suffer in the next season for some reason.

Oktober

Reputation isnt just winning though, big name signings help. If you get a big American or Japanese player for example, that'd help open those markets and improve your club reputation. As far as I'm aware, anyway.

Rickooko

Not really, at least it didnt happen in my game. Even i make some big name 30mil signing my reputation didnt change at all. (checking with FFM)

Rickooko

Just completed my second season with Werder Bremen in the German league and this is my finding with FFM.

Club (reputation on 12/5/09 --> reputation on 24/5/09)

Werder Bremen (7964 --> 7587)
Bayern (8009 --> 7603)
Stuttgart (7487 -->7081)
HSV (7494 -->7097)
Dortmund (6887 --> 6585)
Wolfsburg (6315 -->5987)
Karlsruhe (5785 -->5549)

** Schalke (7956 -->7956) Unchanged
** Leverkusen (6959 -->6959) Unchanged
All other clubs reputation unchanged

As you can see, there is some serious drop in reputation like 200~400 for some clubs.

If the club reputation of German clubs is adjusted/dropped according with the league standard/reputation, then why would Schalke and Leverkusen's reputation remind unchanged? And why would smaller clubs with low reputation such as Wolfsburg and Karlsruhe suffer reputation drop??

I really cant figure out why is those drop exsit but you can predict in 2 to 3 seasons there will be no more continental German clubs if their reputation drop as crazy as this!

Rickooko

I wish SI can explain the mechanism of this reputation drops for German Clubs (or French Clubs as well which i am not sure), if they works as intended.

If this is actually a bug then i hope SI can fix this as it exists since FM07 but still in FM08.

farao85

It happend to me very frustating...