retired_schoffner

this reranking system, weather by season or by xmas is silly.

my brighton team are head and shoulders the best team in the championship. we lost last two play offs but our team is worth twice as much as the next competitor, and we've beat all the teams in this league over the seasons no problem. if anything we're stronger, and but for awful luck we should have gone up last year.

but i am 15th, why? cos the game thinks that cos i'm the favourite we can't win. THIS IS A FACT. and it is poor programming (by excellent programmers).

too much emphasis is AWAY from raw ability. forget tactics, media, this that the other, my players are much much better and my tactics are pretty standard.

therefor i should win most games, so why do i lose?

the game needs rethinking.

retired_Myoplex

i think its quite realistic actually, if a team plays like a team they can beat anyone look at southend, they played as a team and beat man u! its just emphasises the fact that if you cant get the team tactics right you won't suceed

retired_janellewood86

First off, re-ranking is very realistic. Do teams play against Wigan as they did at the turn of the milenium? No. They're not a League One team any more. This is how the game reflects the changing attitudes of teams towards you as you get better. Trust me, it works the other way. If you consistently underperform, you'll soon see teams coming at you more.

You should learn to adapt to this. If you genuinely have better players than the rest of the league (and value doesn't necessarily reflect that), you should still be higher than 15th. How are you letting in goals? Is your possession quite high? Shots high? If you're dominating games and still losing, it's probably a tactical issue in that you're not watching for counter attacks. If you're getting comprehensibly beaten it's because your tactics are fundamentally flawed.

Read the tactical bible threads to get some new ideas. Clearly, your approach doesn't work for fancied teams.

Sky King

Re-ranking itself is realistic...however, human's teams not being able to win after the "re-ranking" is not realistic. Teams like Man Utd, Chelsea keep on winning no matter how much the opposition coaches re-rank, re-shuffle, re-fresh, or whatever.

I mean if re-ranking and switching to counter-attack style kills human teams every time, why wouldn't they do it in the first place?

retired_janellewood86

It isn't impossible to win after re-ranking: you just have to change your approach.

Cleon once said that he had a long discussion with a player who said he could no longer win and it turned out that a number of things this player did were exactly the same, no matter how he wanted to play. You need to make some fundamental changes sometimes, but not incredibly drastic ones.

Playing a system with a deep line (to prevent counter attacks), attacking (to compensate for the defensive opposition), and then experimenting with a wider width, perhaps a slower tempo and a whole host of things will get you up and running again.

With Manchester United or Chelsea, you should be able to win after any re-ranking because of the quality of the side. However, you've got to change your approach. Anyone who reckons they've "tried everything and I still can't win" quite clearly hasn't tried everything.

I'm not trying to say I never have a re-ranking problem, because that would be a barefaced lie. However, if you go in with the attitude that you can change it and you can succeed rather than blaming the game you will win. Eventually.

retired_Myoplex

teams like man utd and chelsea dont win all the time if they did they would have about 90 points each,

oh just wondering someone once said that farrows show the opposition are attacking i'm newcastle and im top of the premiership in late january 2nd season and brentford are playing 4-4-1-1 with farrows on the wingers :S shouldn't they be defensive? i'm winning 2-0 and they now have long farrows on the wingers(understandable)

Sky King

This is already a problem.
In real life, you don't see Inter, Man Utd, Barcelona faltering because the opposition coaches make adjustments. Yes, these are great teams, but that's not my point. The oppositions should not be able to start beating you after re-ranking; I don't mind them being alert and look for counter-attacks. That's fine, but they should still lose 2-0, 2-1, and so on instead of being dominated and somehow pulls a 1-0 win. To me, that's BS.

retired_janae55

Reranking should affect mediocre-lower teams in the league more than the top teams. If you're a top team and you're expected to win the league every season, I don't see how reranking will affect you - most teams will play defensively against you no matter what season you're in.

retired_elpata

If people say re ranking is effecting their results a lot, then they are lying and don't understand the game. Re ranking does not effect people like they keep claiming on this forum. If all of a sudden you loose 5 games in a row and can't do anything right, this is not re ranking. SI have stated many times, that re ranking does not effect the game to the extend people think it does.

So if people think there loosing to re ranking, think again as you are way wrong.

retired_janellewood86

This is already a problem.
In real life, you don't see Inter, Man Utd, Barcelona faltering because the opposition coaches make adjustments. Yes, these are great teams, but that's not my point. The oppositions should not be able to start beating you after re-ranking; I don't mind them being alert and look for counter-attacks. That's fine, but they should still lose 2-0, 2-1, and so on instead of being dominated and somehow pulls a 1-0 win. To me, that's BS. </BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes they do. That is a complete ignorance of how football works. Of course Manchester United change their approach if the opposition do something unexpected. Not drastically, but they do.

Arsenal many times this season have suffered because they can't adapt. Blackburn in the FA Cup - loads of chances, but wouldn't put them away. Blackburn counter and they win 1-0. Or Middlesborough, Arsenal, Everton (x2) in the league.

United will go out with their game plan. If it doesn't work, Sir Alex will change things up. Maybe play a little more defensive to soak up pressure away from home, or go more attacking when that doens't work. Not drastic changes but little ones to affect the balance of play. If he played the same tactic week-in week-out and it worked he would only lose to Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal. If that.

I'm sorry, but I am totally surprised you responded like this because it's completely and utterly wrong. You need to watch football from a technical stand point instead of a fan's point of view and you'll see what I mean.