[gooner4eva_04]

Post your tactics here, need to know successful tactics which helped a confrence side make it into the big time.

[chriseldiablo]

I am playing with Fisher in Conference South.

So far:

W28 D2 L0 For77 Ag21 G.D.+56 Pts86


I am playing a flat 442, with Short Arrows on my Wingers. Tempo & Passing is on 1. Low creativity as I am sure it will ruin the game plan; 1 on the defence & GK, 3 on rest.

I always watch game in full modus until I am in control. This is vital to be able to tweak tactic during play ftw.


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Good luck!

[blade111]

Playing Worcester, had quite a bit of success with wwfans ro0 tacticts, got to say though all of a sudden I seem to be struggling away.I beat a team 3-1 that was one below me, in the league away, and then the very next game lost to a team that was 19th away, bloody crazy. Home tactic is great though.

[Millie]

Originally posted by gooner4eva_04:
Post your tactics here, need to know successful tactics which helped a confrence side make it into the big time.

Hey Gooner!

This thread is likely to get locked down rather quickly as this is basically a thread asking for tactics, which is against this forum's rules.

If anyone, like yourself, is playing in the conference and needs help, then check out the Bible. The TT&F RoO sets are also brilliant, so I'm told, for lower league managers - wwfan's sets in particular were designed with non-league British football in mind.

Overall, though, you will get far greater success from learning how the game works and creating your own tactics. Only in this way can you understand how and why the tactic works and what you need to do to change it to keep winning.

[blade111]

Millie I don't want to argue with you over this forum, BUT I beg to differ
1, I honestly think you need all the help you can being a lower league manager.

2, The lower league forum is as much use as an ash tray on a motor bike.(not that you mentioned 'em, but I thought I'd put it in)

3' The ro0 tactic is brilliant for premiership teams I know cos with Man utd I done quite well thank you very much it all,(not finished it off yet, won premiership, league cup, still in semis of the euro against gunners in next round and semis of fa cup, so its bloody marvellous.

4' The bible has got to be sorted and as everyone has there own take, look at Rashidi, he plays different to wwfan, I like Cleons info but its another take altogether, I would never play 4-3-3 like his sheffield utd project, it would be suicide in the premiership.(mind thats taking in I've only read the first couple of pages, he may of changed the formation after).


5. Creating your own tactics, for a lot of people is a no no as it takes time , that is why we rely on wwfan', Cleon, rashidi,Diaby plus all the other guys, that think they have a decent tactic, but with them 4 above they are honest and break it down,' and from wwfans input he does listen to other peoples take on his tactics, had a couple of barnies but thats life its unfortunate that you have certain people on here that will put their input down, and for the life of of me I just say "bollox sort it out yourself."

But in all honesty as much as Sir Alex Fergy and the likes get there buzz out of winning the euro, I like the buzz of beating a Bury in the fa cup first round with Worcester, but its bloody harder.
And I'm not knocking Cleon, Rashidi or wwfan because their contribution is fundimental to helping us all, or you as you contribute loads and you are very helpful.But I read on one of the forums that you use the Ro0 theory but have changed the settings, so you in someways don't agree with wwfan. I would love to have sussed this game out and come on here and help people out but I've got say I'm ***** at it.

And finally I didn't realise until the other day how much the oppostion change there team about during a match, I stopped the match after 10mins and my man marking was all over the place. And I would bet your bottom dollar that a lot of people that come on this forum have never noticed. I played a game earlier in which the Opposition actually started with a cd up front on his own, and by the time I'd realised it the blinker had scored 2 goals, then they had the cheek to swop him with a dr/dc although when looking at their team they had a perfectly good striker playing on the wing.

Im ranting now time to get me cocoa and go to bed lol.

[Millie]

Originally posted by blade111:
Millie I don't want to argue with you over this forum, BUT I beg to differ
1, I honestly think you need all the help you can being a lower league manager.

Don't disagree. I just think that the help in the bible shouldn't be overlooked. I also think the opening poster is contributing nothing to the forum by simply asking for good tactics. That's why I offered the links.

2, The lower league forum is as much use as an ash tray on a motor bike.(not that you mentioned 'em, but I thought I'd put it in)

Totally agree. But it's not there to help people, it's there for... actually, I don't know what it's there for! But as tactics and player naming is completely banned, it's a waste of time for those struggling.

3' The ro0 tactic is brilliant for premiership teams I know cos with Man utd I done quite well thank you very much it all,(not finished it off yet, won premiership, league cup, still in semis of the euro against gunners in next round and semis of fa cup, so its bloody marvellous.

They were designed (the wwfan sets at any rate) for Conference sides though. That's why I offered them for people (as you mention in point 5) who don't necessarily want to create their own tactics.

4' The bible has got to be sorted and as everyone has there own take, look at Rashidi, he plays different to wwfan, I like Cleons info but its another take altogether, I would never play 4-3-3 like his sheffield utd project, it would be suicide in the premiership.(mind thats taking in I've only read the first couple of pages, he may of changed the formation after).

Agreed - it's not going to give you the answers and you need to put your own effort in to get anything from it. But it brings up so many issues and will help immensely. As a starting point for further discussion it can't be beaten. Again, this is more a case of referring to the complete lack of constructive contribution from the opening poster.

5. Creating your own tactics, for a lot of people is a no no as it takes time , that is why we rely on wwfan', Cleon, rashidi,Diaby plus all the other guys, that think they have a decent tactic, but with them 4 above they are honest and break it down,' and from wwfans input he does listen to other peoples take on his tactics, had a couple of barnies but thats life its unfortunate that you have certain people on here that will put their input down, and for the life of of me I just say "bollox sort it out yourself."

I know it takes time, but if you play in the lower leagues you should be fully aware that you have to put the hours in. To think you can play in the lower leagues "casually" is to completely miss the point - that's just my opinion, but if you don't want to spend hours pulling your hair out I wouldn't start in the lower leagues.

But in all honesty as much as Sir Alex Fergy and the likes get there buzz out of winning the euro, I like the buzz of beating a Bury in the fa cup first round with Worcester, but its bloody harder.
And I'm not knocking Cleon, Rashidi or wwfan because their contribution is fundimental to helping us all, or you as you contribute loads and you are very helpful.But I read on one of the forums that you use the Ro0 theory but have changed the settings, so you in someways don't agree with wwfan. I would love to have sussed this game out and come on here and help people out but I've got say I'm ***** at it.

Thank you. Yes, I don't agree totally with anyone on this forum, nor should anyone else. My point is that by reading the bible you get a lot of different takes on the game and can use those bits that suit you. I like a lot of wwfan's stuff, in particular RoO, but I find the idea of locking tempo, passing and width together to be detrimental. I dismiss a lot of the Bible and only discover stuff later and take on board stuff that I later reject. I feel that for a newcomer, though, reading about these different approaches give you ideas. You don't have to use any of them, but some basic questions are answered there without having to repeat the same old crap over and over again.

And finally I didn't realise until the other day how much the oppostion change there team about during a match, I stopped the match after 10mins and my man marking was all over the place. And I would bet your bottom dollar that a lot of people that come on this forum have never noticed. I played a game earlier in which the Opposition actually started with a cd up front on his own, and by the time I'd realised it the blinker had scored 2 goals, then they had the cheek to swop him with a dr/dc although when looking at their team they had a perfectly good striker playing on the wing.

Im ranting now time to get me cocoa and go to bed lol.

You're right, it is something that can really take you by surprise if you're not watching for it. But again, this is something that hopefully reading around the forum will get you to realise. Reading this post will help you realise it! Not sure if that backs up my point or not...

In summary, this isn't a go at you at al blade111. It's a veiled attack on the complete lack of constructive contributions from the opening poster, who has started little more than a "wat iz da best taktik" thread. Frankly, in light of the fact I hate these threads with a passion, I think I was quite civil.

[rashidi1]

There is a reason why asking for tactics has been banned. There isn't one way to play the game. Everyone approaches the game in different ways. Templates can be created and approaches taken but these are merely guides to how the game should be played. There are some threads where the posters have gone to great lengths to explain how the tactics can be used at all levels.

A basic 442 works for all levels of football, and following a reasoned approach to making a tactic can work, however one has to understand the various factors that sustain a tactic. I for one don't really care for "re-ranking" cos its fundamentally logical as well. The better a team gets the more defensive a posture other weakers teams may adopt.

There are so many factors to consider it becomes really annoying having to keep reiterating these to people who just simply ask for a tactic that works for an LLM side or one that works for Leeds. I've used the same formation for non league sides and modified the instructions for ECL sides. At the end of the day its trying to take into account the attributes sides possess. If a team has loads of speed, then you play wider. If a team is good at passing but does not possess speed, play narrower. If a team is slow defensively, play narrow and deeper. If you close down heavily with your strikers you force the AI to hurry its passes, if you close down heavily with your defenders you leave huge gaps in defense.

All these points have been made in the tactical bible which in all honesty took a lot of effort to create. And before these forum becomes a mish mash of "tactic requests" like some cheap discotheque this thread is been closed. In future my best advice is to either head for threads where people discuss their approaches in detail..cos most of them have managed LLM sides or you can post queries on why your tactic does not work.

R