Disgusted

retired_sdshannon · 11-13-2007, 12:37 PM

Beta patch #2? I was getting a lot of goals scored for/against in the first two mins until I ran the patch. Scorelines seem to be back in order again now.

retired_bmichaelsen · 11-13-2007, 12:37 PM

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I've had similar results with the match engine, I don't necessarily believe that the results are predetermined, because some of the games I've seen are just stupid. Between "super-keepers", opposition scoring stupid goals and disallowed goals, I'm gonna greet the patch like the second coming.

They are not "new" problems, in fact so-called "super keepers" existed since FM05.

There are still some bugs in the engine that makes the game looks a bit wierd, but even the real patch wont silence all moaners.

jlzbfrsh3 · 11-13-2007, 12:39 PM

I started a game with Man Utd and the same happened to me. I lost against Chelsea to I went back to see if I could beat them and no matter what I did Andrei Shevchenko would always score within the frst 5 minutes.

But then Again i have played games against teams I should beat and lost and having restarted, gone on to beat them.

canaduse · 11-13-2007, 12:52 PM

Gee I think it's called a sports simulation.
Maybe the best comment here was questioning the lads ability.

Then again, he has got Inzaghi in his name

Tron · 11-13-2007, 12:55 PM

im sorry about the wrong choice of words in the 1st post. i meant predetermined events, like the scoring of goals within the 1st 5 mins.

theres no need for me to make this up, why would i. if i had restarted the game and there were no early goals why would i say it happened.

the league was already won by that time and i was using my substitute team to rest my 1st team for the champions league semis. the reason why i restarted was cos i chose a defender as my goalkeeper, therefore i thought thats the reason why i leaked an early goal. but subsequent reloads, from using my backup keeper to 1st choice keeper still resulted in leaking an early goal.

its definitely not 100% predetermined, but something in the match engine is deciding that an early goal is very probable, maybe 90%.

things like early goals are supposed to be purely random, a team with extremely low concentration will not leak early goals 5 games out of 5, other abilities come into factor as well IRL.

but if this is the case in the game then im still disgusted.

leanwitit · 11-13-2007, 01:01 PM

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Originally posted by S-Inzaghi:
what is wrong with the match engine? its as if the result is decided b4 the match is even played.

i had played a player in the wrong position so i decided to reload the game. that was 1-0 against me, a goal scored in the 3rd minute.

i realized that even after reloading. the opponents scores in the 2nd minute again. and subsequently no matter wad i do, whatever players i play, they always score within the 1st 5 minutes.

abosolutely crap

In a way you are correct and I think someone from SI can explain this in more detail.

The match engine will have run / processed the game just before the game is played out in highlights on your screen. As far as I'm aware this has always been the case. The match engine will have taken into account all the things that you would expect.

HOWEVER should you make any tactical changes / subs etc during the match then these will be taken into account and could affect the final outcome of the game

retired_mejohnsson · 11-13-2007, 01:18 PM

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Originally posted by S-Inzaghi:
things like early goals are supposed to be purely random

Really?!? Imagine the complaints we'd see on this site if match events were "purely random" as opposed to being influenced by players' abilities, form, tactics etc etc etc

zib · 11-13-2007, 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by S-Inzaghi:
what is wrong with the match engine? its as if the result is decided b4 the match is even played.

i had played a player in the wrong position so i decided to reload the game. that was 1-0 against me, a goal scored in the 3rd minute.

i realized that even after reloading. the opponents scores in the 2nd minute again. and subsequently no matter wad i do, whatever players i play, they always score within the 1st 5 minutes.

abosolutely crap

suck it up princess! deal with it. there is no water left in bendigo. no patch will fix that up

Tron · 11-13-2007, 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by KingKenny:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by S-Inzaghi:
things like early goals are supposed to be purely random

Really?!? Imagine the complaints we'd see on this site if match events were "purely random" as opposed to being influenced by players' abilities, form, tactics etc etc etc </BLOCKQUOTE>

can u tell me wad tactics u use, wad kind of form and players abilities will get me early goals

leanwitit · 11-13-2007, 02:29 PM

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Originally posted by S-Inzaghi:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by KingKenny:
<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by S-Inzaghi:
things like early goals are supposed to be purely random

Really?!? Imagine the complaints we'd see on this site if match events were "purely random" as opposed to being influenced by players' abilities, form, tactics etc etc etc </BLOCKQUOTE>

can u tell me wad tactics u use, wad kind of form and players abilities will get me early goals </BLOCKQUOTE>

fella, you may get some help if you could refrain from using the gangster / text speak

I would recoomed a read of the tactics section in the manual. I would also recommed a read of Mark Vaughan's FM07 hints and tips in the download section

The whole fun of this game is developing things yourself. I personally have a home and away tactic based upon my present squad. I'll then adjust these tactics depending on the opposition. Many people expect to be able to use 1 super tactic that wins nearly every game. When they find they can't they then complain the game is too difficult.

Realism sometimes is

If after this you still have problems try the tactics forum

Cheers :thup:

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