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Is there any way of getting good regens coming thru the youth system? Obviously if the training facilites and youth academy are 'state of the art', as mine are. But do any other factors influence this? Does having good youth coaches make a difference?
04-12-2007, 02:50 PM
Getting good regens promoted thru youth system... Post #2
Yes, youth academies play a part and developing the infrastructure at your club should influence the quality of newgens being produced but there is also a random factor involved. Im in 2011 in my career game at the moment and I've been using geniescout to study how newgens are distributed and while most years the bigger clubs in the league get the lion's share of quality youth players coming through it's not uncommon for lower league clubs to get some starlets in certain years. It's a little similar to real life in that sense - think of Ipswich and charlton producing sought-after players despite the more expensive youth set-ups of say, Arsenal or Newcastle.
It does seem that certain world youth academies have been hardcoded into the database to produce an above average amount of talented newgens, e.g. Bayern Munich, Santos, Man Utd. Man U in my game has already produced three future England stars, one goalkeeper that could go on to be better than Shilton. Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool by comparison have struggled to keep up. I can't say if that trend will continue indefinitely but it's interesting to observe none the less.
I don't think that youth coaches have much of an impact but as your club gets bigger your overall scouting knowledge can have an impact on the nationality of any youth players coming through. Your overall scouting knowledge is ofcourse directly affected by the nationality of any staff at your club.
04-12-2007, 04:56 PM
Getting good regens promoted thru youth system... Post #3
In my Barca game, I'm only in the third season, but I've already had two players come out of my academy that supposedly could be some of the best in their generation. That's according to my assistant manager.
04-18-2007, 04:53 PM
Getting good regens promoted thru youth system... Post #4
That's really good, how many players are going to be the best of their generation? You can't expect your academy to constantly pump out messis and xavis every year. My youth academy is very poor at FC Lausanne so I constantly have my scouts looking for swiss based players aged 17 or under. I stagger the scouting missions based on position, e.g goalies under 17, midfielders under 17 etc. Bear in my mind that its very difficult for scouts to predict exactly how good a player aged 16 or so will become so while they may identify them it's best to add them to your shortlist for a while and see if they develop when theyre 18 or 19. Then you can get a better glimpse of their potential.
04-18-2007, 05:45 PM
Getting good regens promoted thru youth system... Post #5
Originally posted by Googen:
That's really good, how many players are going to be the best of their generation? You can't expect your academy to constantly pump out messis and xavis every year.
Only at Barca you can. It's La Masia for a reason. In recent years, Messi, dos Santos, Krkic, Fabregas, Merida, Pique, and Tejera were all from La Masia.
I agree with the above comment that some clubs seem to be hardcoded with an above average percentage of great talents, but maybe it is something that can change with increases in a club's reputation and getting top youth facilities.
04-18-2007, 07:19 PM
Getting good regens promoted thru youth system... Post #6
Originally posted by Doom Train:
There is value called ``youth setup`` for each club that increases the percentage of good players come from youth system i think.
Youth setup can be changed from editor.
I believe that is correct, although I think it also determines how quickly/successfully your youth players develop.
04-19-2007, 01:15 AM
Getting good regens promoted thru youth system... Post #9
The nationality of your coaches (espically youth coaches) also influences the nationality of your regens, but I dont believe their ability.
Im not sure if anyone else has noticed this, but normally my new regens are always in positions I lack power in. For example if I have 3 strikers who are world-class, I rarely produce strikers. While if I have no strikers that are impressive (according to your assistant manager, 'somewhere you can improve') I tend to get the majority of my regens in that position.
Another big factor is your club reputation. Its just like in real life, if there is an amazing 15 year old player and he gets world-wide attention, he will chose to go to Barcelona rather than Crewe or something like that. At the same time, those smaller clubs tend to get a lot of low CA but high PA players just like in real life.
04-19-2007, 01:20 AM
Getting good regens promoted thru youth system... Post #10
Originally posted by deadlydevices:
The nationality of your coaches (espically youth coaches) also influences the nationality of your regens, but I dont believe their ability.
I have noticed this...well kind of!
My first nationality is Indian, and in one of my games, I had a fair few very decent Indian youth players coming in.