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Old 12-29-2006, 11:08 PM   Tactic Tweaking – The what, where, when and how!!!! Post #101
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<BLOCKQUOTE>Originally posted by Cleon:

But yeah I never have any players on attacking individual mentalites but often use it as a team one.
Then you've just given me an additional tweaking tool during matches. And quite an important one as well </BLOCKQUOTE>

No more questions? was just getting into them

Anyways I hope people have learnt new stuff, got new ideas, inspirtaion etc from todays replies
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Old 12-29-2006, 11:20 PM   Tactic Tweaking – The what, where, when and how!!!! Post #102
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Having just bought FM2007 yesterday, this has undoubtedly been the most useful thread so far. But isn't the match engine almost identical to FM2006?
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Old 12-29-2006, 11:29 PM   Tactic Tweaking – The what, where, when and how!!!! Post #103
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Having just bought FM2007 yesterday, this has undoubtedly been the most useful thread so far. But isn't the match engine almost identical to FM2006?
Nope, its simliar in way, but advanced in others. Read the unofficial tactics bible upto if you need more guidance
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Old 12-29-2006, 11:29 PM   Tactic Tweaking – The what, where, when and how!!!! Post #104
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No more questions? was just getting into them
Just the next few for now

In general, the team instructions you change during and between matches are mainly mentality and tempo? Timewasting as well probably, but creative freedom and tackling will probably only be touched in exceptional circumstances.
Then we still have closing down, passing, width and defensive line. How often do you change these? I assume closing down and passing wont be touched too often, since these will probably have been set individually?

And then a last off-topic question : Whats the point in forward runs for strikers, theyre already forward, right? Mine are on mentality 12 but getting offside quite a bit, will turn it down from mixed to rarely, see if that fixes it..
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Old 12-29-2006, 11:42 PM   Tactic Tweaking – The what, where, when and how!!!! Post #105
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Having just bought FM2007 yesterday, this has undoubtedly been the most useful thread so far. But isn't the match engine almost identical to FM2006?
Best thing I found was taking the time to look at my players (luton town) attributes and abilities. Decide how you want to play, in my case a 4-4-2 diamond, then adjust your players individual instructions to get the best out of them. Small changes or tweaks can get decent results, in my case a 2-0 away win at wolves is a highlight and stands testament to all the people who offer advice here. I haven't followed anyone in particular, but this forum planted the seed so to speak. Most people avoid in depth tactical stuff and lose interest because they can't win, but in reality a little effort gets you rewarding gameplay.
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Old 12-30-2006, 12:45 AM   Tactic Tweaking – The what, where, when and how!!!! Post #106
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Yeah, I've always discovered a basic shape and then tweaked my individual player instructions to coincide with my players' strengths and weaknesses. I find this to be quite elementary. The overall team instructions are what intrigue me most - defensive line, closing down and tempo especially. I find it varies entirely game by game.

So far so good with my Preston side, though. Slowly developing an efficient blueprint tactic and I'm climbing the Championship table in my first season and getting some form together.

It's all about playing to your players' strengths :cool:
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Old 12-30-2006, 01:04 AM   Tactic Tweaking – The what, where, when and how!!!! Post #107
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Agreed mate, I always play a DM and he and the centre backs play defensive, closing down often on the most skilful opposition players also. Find a quick tempo attack always does me proud when playing at home :cool:
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Old 12-30-2006, 11:03 AM   Tactic Tweaking – The what, where, when and how!!!! Post #108
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Agreed that this is a great post Cleon. For some time now, I have been trying to use the scout report to determine how I should play, but it appears I have been doing the wrong things! e.g. If a team likes to play a slow patient game, I would do the same, as this is my style of play, but I would increase my closing down, to try and win the ball back quicker. This was not getting me many results. Now however, having read this post, I decided to go direct and fast, winnning 3-0!

A quick question if I may. Having used this theory to notch up a 6 games winning streak, I have got to an opponent that has now type of prefered passing or tempo, but accoerding to the scout, likes to 'mix it up a bit'.

Any advice on the best way to play against this??
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In general, the team instructions you change during and between matches are mainly mentality and tempo? Timewasting as well probably, but creative freedom and tackling will probably only be touched in exceptional circumstances.
Then we still have closing down, passing, width and defensive line. How often do you change these? I assume closing down and passing wont be touched too often, since these will probably have been set individually?
The things I change in game a lot are team mentality, team passing (as most of my team use global passing, its easier to tweak then), tempo, d-line the rest I don't ever touch.

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And then a last off-topic question : Whats the point in forward runs for strikers, theyre already forward, right? Mine are on mentality 12 but getting offside quite a bit, will turn it down from mixed to rarely, see if that fixes it..
Exactly, I never have nor never will use forward runs for strikers as it makes them off side.
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Old 12-30-2006, 12:46 PM   Tactic Tweaking – The what, where, when and how!!!! Post #110
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Agreed that this is a great post Cleon. For some time now, I have been trying to use the scout report to determine how I should play, but it appears I have been doing the wrong things! e.g. If a team likes to play a slow patient game, I would do the same, as this is my style of play, but I would increase my closing down, to try and win the ball back quicker. This was not getting me many results. Now however, having read this post, I decided to go direct and fast, winnning 3-0!
Nice, glad you having success now by re evaluating

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A quick question if I may. Having used this theory to notch up a 6 games winning streak, I have got to an opponent that has now type of prefered passing or tempo, but accoerding to the scout, likes to 'mix it up a bit'.

Any advice on the best way to play against this??
Aye fot these games I watch a large proportion of it, this way I see what exactly they are mixing upand what they start with. If its mix up, it means the manager changes things often, just like I do, passing tempo etc. Thats why its easier to watch a chunk of the game to get your settings right.
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