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Old 04-18-2007, 01:13 PM   Mega test of formation tweaks, 10 games test for each tweak to see what happens Post #1
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Default Mega test of formation tweaks, 10 games test for each tweak to see what happens

I have decided to do a few tests in order to understand how the game works and hopefully educate myself a little bit to become a little more tactically astute.

Even though I have read many threads about short/long passing, width, fast/slow tempo, I sometimes get baffled by it so I thought I would create a simple experiment.

My idea is to play 10 games against the same team in the same circumstances, no subs, same formation, and no tweaks and see what results I get. Then I will try the same with different tweaks to the formation and see what results I get.

First off, I will try the basic 4-4-2 Normal formation that is a standard formation and see what happens for 10 games. I will play a game, then without saving I will go back into the game and play the same game again. It will be interesting to see the variation of results I will get.

My opponents for this test are Derby.
I am playing at home (may do an away test later)

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Old 04-18-2007, 01:17 PM   Mega test of formation tweaks, 10 games test for each tweak to see what happens Post #2
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Sounds good, will watch this thread closely.
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Here are the results of the first 10 games.
With the 4-4-2 Normal formation I
won 5
lost 1
drew 4

Game 1

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/2245/ms1wz1.jpg]2-1 win[/URL]

Game 2

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/3814/ms2ua0.jpg]2-2 draw[/URL]

Game 3

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/5871/ms3op6.jpg]2-1 win[/URL]

Game 4

http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/1931/ms4ay7.jpg]1-0 win[/URL]

Game 5

http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/4486/ms5js8.jpg]2-1 win[/URL]

Game 6

http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/1315/ms6jh2.jpg]3-1 loss[/URL]

Game 7

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2721/ms7ke3.jpg]2-1 win[/URL]

Game 8

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5237/ms8cr6.jpg]1-1 draw[/URL]

Game 9

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/6739/ms9xw1.jpg]2-2 draw[/URL]

Game 10

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/3209/ms10dm3.jpg]2-2 draw[/URL]


Seeing as this game was one I should have one, I see with the formation I use I had a 50% chance of winning, a 40% chance of drawing & a 10% chance of losing.
I will now do the same test but focus on mentality.

I will keep the 4-4-2 Normal and change the global mentality slider to the first line of attacking and see what happens. I notice I did not score more than w goals in any of the games so it will be interesting to see the results.

Another thing I notice was that I averaged only about 10 shots on goal, I wonder if the mentality change will produce more shots.
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Messed those link up

will try again.


Result 1

2-1 win

Result 2

2-2 draw

Result 3

2-1 win

Result 4

1-0 win

Result 5

2-1 win

Result 6

3-1 loss

Result 7

2-1 win

Result 8

1-1 draw

Result 9

2-2 draw

Result 10

2-2 draw
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Very interesting experiment. I like the fact you're doing 10 tests of each to give a good average. I'll definitely be keeping an eye on this one to see what effect the changes have. Keep the updates coming.
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Good idea. I too will keep a close eye
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Update

Here are the results of the 10 games.
With the 4-4-2 Normal (global mentality on 1st slider attack)
won 5
lost 3
drew 2


Result 1

3-0 win

Result 2

3-0 win

Result 3

1-2 loss

Result 4

1-0 win

Result 5

0-0 draw

Result 6

1-3 loss

Result 7

1-1 draw

Result 8

2-1 win

Result 9

4-0 win

Result 10

0-1 loss

Just altering the global mentality into attack I notice I have potential to score more goals, although this might have got me a good win, there is still only a 50% chance of winning the game and an even greater chance I could lose.

Strangely I notice that I am not having as many shots on average as I did in the first 10 games, but I seemingly must be getting better chances as in some games I have score 3, 4 goals.

Next I am going to keep everything as it is but change the GK instructions to a more common sense approach and see how I fair over the next 10 games.

If anyone else has noticed anything from the match stats please feel free to contribute.
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You're giving Derby a fair few shots on goal, but luckily for you, most of the shots are off target, maybe due to your defense...
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I changed my GK instructions to this. Everything else will remain the same. Time of another test

GK Instructions
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Another update with the third tweaked formation with the modified GK settings.
Won 3
lost 7
drawn 0

0-1 loss
4-3 win
4-0 win
3-0 win
0-1 loss
1-2 loss
0-2 loss
1-2 loss
0-2 loss
0-2 loss

Amazing what that simple GK change has made! I am going to have to have a think about his settings. It seems to me the GK setting are paramount to a good tactic.

Could be that some people have a great tactic but do not have the GK settings spot on maybe.
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