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Old 01-04-2008, 01:34 PM   Tried something new... Post #11
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I only lost 1 game first season playing with milan(vs inter 3-1) gattuso was sent off -high dirtyness = minimum a yellow card each ..great bug SI
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If a player has high creative freedom and good decision making, why would you restrict his passing to 1, surely you would have this mixed to enable his ability to be maximised.

If it was a defender that had high passing and decisions I would also have his individual passing set as mixed, or even direct.
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Old 01-04-2008, 01:42 PM   Tried something new... Post #13
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What Saintjonny said..I would never use 1 or 2 passing . Its again up to the players ability, what is hes role and where he plays on the pitch.
I use 10 for Pirlo as central Mid, Kaka have 5 as AMC and both my DC have 5 on the passing slider. But I guess some of you guys like to play differently ?
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Old 01-04-2008, 04:11 PM   Tried something new... Post #14
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Originally posted by Saintjonny:
If a player has high creative freedom and good decision making, why would you restrict his passing to 1, surely you would have this mixed to enable his ability to be maximised.

If it was a defender that had high passing and decisions I would also have his individual passing set as mixed, or even direct.

Good point. Glad to hear a few replies. I'll try reversing it so it's on the last notch of the slider.
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I have set up a formation and tactic using your suggestions. I noticed two main points.

1. If you have four or five players with high [say 15] for stamina and you put them all on closing down of 15, you may well have nearly half of your team chasing around the pitch and possibly being caught out of position too much.

2. The make up of your team may well be of too rigid a nature. I found that I had a team that was too close to the tactics centre line, e.g. most of my players were either side of neutral, 10 or balanced, whatever you choose to call it.

Hope this helps.
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Basically the closer to goal a player is playing the shorter the passing. So Defenders should be passing longer than your Midfielders and your Midfielders passing should probably be mixed, if the passing is low up to 12, then you would probably get away with the passing stat matching his passing on the individual instructions, when its over 16 then you can think about creativity and decisions reflecting the type of passing you choose him to be on, from high short to high mixed.

Its a good theory to play around with though the problems come when its over complicated and everyone is trying to do their own thing, so make sure you dont over cook the basis of your theory!
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I have set up a formation and tactic using your suggestions. I noticed two main points.

1. If you have four or five players with high [say 15] for stamina and you put them all on closing down of 15, you may well have nearly half of your team chasing around the pitch and possibly being caught out of position too much.

2. The make up of your team may well be of too rigid a nature. I found that I had a team that was too close to the tactics centre line, e.g. most of my players were either side of neutral, 10 or balanced, whatever you choose to call it.

Hope this helps.
To be honest i prefer my players to be constantly closing down rather than standing off. I think even if there were 4-5 players on 15 for closing down they have common sense and don't all close down one player, they close down as a team.

I've also tried using ROT with this theory at home to Plymouth and battered them 4-1 with 29 shots at goal.

The theory seems to work in particular with Billy Sharp who has 42 goals in 42 games so far. He's great at dribbling, breaking the offside trap and also long shots. So i've put him on often for all three as well as the individual settings matched to his attributes and he's scoring for fun.

I've also reversed the passing instructions as was suggested. So if someone has 19 for passing i'd put it on the 19th notch on the slider so it's very direct. Seemed to work well in creating decent chances.
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Basically the closer to goal a player is playing the shorter the passing. So Defenders should be passing longer than your Midfielders and your Midfielders passing should probably be mixed, if the passing is low up to 12, then you would probably get away with the passing stat matching his passing on the individual instructions, when its over 16 then you can think about creativity and decisions reflecting the type of passing you choose him to be on, from high short to high mixed.

Its a good theory to play around with though the problems come when its over complicated and everyone is trying to do their own thing, so make sure you dont over cook the basis of your theory!
Yeah you've got a good point there. I just got fed up with trying to be too technical with the game. It was starting to take the fun out of as a lot of people would agree. Just tried this theory and had a little success with it and wondered if anyone else had. It seems to work well with the ROT though.
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Tried a holiday season, Spurs squad with a few additions, and finished 5th. Most players on higher attacking mentality and cf than normal probably reflected in goals F&A.
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maybe you dont need to go too in depth and only worry about certain players to get the best out of them, rather than do it for the whole team.

I think the fun factor has been taken out the game for someone who basically wants to pick up the game and play a few matches, or seasons without having to go so in depth that before you know it your knee-deep in tactical changes and team-talks and training.

In-depth is good, but not THAT good - its a computer game at the end of the day with a wide range of appeal to people from professional managers, coaches and players right down to the young kids first computer game on a PC.

Anyway back on topic - i suggest you stick to your original theory but downsize it to a managable level that you know you will stick to consistently.
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