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Old 09-10-2005, 05:31 PM   Scouting U-19, U-21 National Side Post #1
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I would like to have a few second opinions about something I haven't found in the LLM Guidelines. I also do not recall it being discussed here - if I'm wrong, flame me at will, but first point towards the appropriate link, por favor.

So: The basic rule of scouting is that only those players your scout finds can be signed. Recently, however, I've been wondering about the following. Even as a foreign manager, you are aware of the call-ups to the U-19 and U-21 sides in the country you manage - here in Poland it is officially announced on the FA website and in the papers, so I guess everywhere else is the same. Now, if you know that such and such players have been called up to the U-19/U-21 national side, would it be ok to send your scout to have a look at them? Now, pre-empting the usual argument - I do not have doubts about the "reality factor" of this practice, just worried about it not being permitted by the guidelines.
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Old 09-10-2005, 05:53 PM   Scouting U-19, U-21 National Side Post #2
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It fits along with the "press coverage". If they're mentioned in the press, then it's feasible to scout them
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Old 09-10-2005, 05:58 PM   Scouting U-19, U-21 National Side Post #3
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Well, they're not, aren't they. But the national side does not get any coverage in the media anyways - unless you manage it, of course -, so it is an oversight on the part of the game rather than lack of profile. IRL it is common practice for lower tier clubs to buy U-19s and sometimes U-21s - in Poland U-19 you would have problems finding more than a couple of players from Division 1.
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Old 09-10-2005, 06:01 PM   Scouting U-19, U-21 National Side Post #4
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So what is the question?
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Old 09-10-2005, 06:12 PM   Scouting U-19, U-21 National Side Post #5
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Hmmm, ok, in simple terms - bearing in mind the above, is it ok LLM-wise to open the U-19 screen and assign a scout to watch the players?
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Some would say it's a very grey area.

I'd say it's beyond that.
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If you have to ask...
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Old 09-10-2005, 07:34 PM   Scouting U-19, U-21 National Side Post #8
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Thanx for not reading carefully... I do not have to ask - in my book it seems ok, as it mirrors real life far better than pretending that international football does not exist for lower leagues' managers. Currently I have three U-19 players in my team and I do not believe that IRL after their return from an international game the manager would simply note their presence in training, or that he would not follow the U-19 team game to see how well they played. I'm just interested in the rationale behind excluding this from the legit scout ativities.
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Right. First off, don't get bolshy. I am tempted to close this thread on your attitude alone.

Secondly, if you have a question, ask it straight, otherwise it won't be answered.
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Scout Where You Can Tour. Scout Your Borders.

That's what I do.

While managing in the lower leagues I'm unlikely to be able to attract u21's anyway so why bother.

You seem to have made up your mind though.
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