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Old 01-04-2008, 01:00 AM   Old Players (over 30), Stats and Retires Post #1
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Hello everybody, I start a new topic because i don't know if anybody has already write about this problem:

In all my careers I noticed that very often happens saome strange things: it's not a bug but just an unrealistic thing.
1) Players over 30 y.o. loose too quick their stats, and if it can be right for physical stats it shouldn't be so for technical and mental stats.
2) Players over 30 y.o., loosing so quick their stats, even their are a top class players, are too quick put in the reserve team or on the transfer list (even when their are the history of the team Totti for the Rome, Del Piero for the Juventus, Scholes for Man Utd, ecc.)and so too often go to play to minor teams (for ex. Henry at 34 to Laval)

3)Too many players retire around 33-35 years, when, i think, a lots of important career end a little later.

So it's not a big thing but i think that woul be a right thing make the player's stats decrease a little later, giving 2-3 years at good level to many players.
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Old 01-04-2008, 01:03 AM   Old Players (over 30), Stats and Retires Post #2
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I reply myself just to say sorry for my bad very bad english :S
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Old 01-04-2008, 01:37 AM   Old Players (over 30), Stats and Retires Post #3
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Your English is better than my Italian.

The aging model depends on the player's position and playing time.

Defenders and defensive midfielders are likely to last much longer. I've had a 38-year-old defender and a 36-year-old DM contribute at the Premier League level.

Strikers and attacking players are likely to lose their edge earlier. I've seen a 30-year-old striker whom I thought was past it .. but I've also had a 33-year-old score goals with regularity.
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Old 01-04-2008, 03:12 AM   Old Players (over 30), Stats and Retires Post #4
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A 36 year old Juan Roman Riquelme in my game has a 2 acceleration, 2 agility, 1 pace, 3 stamina, 3 strength. He still has atleast 16 points in corners, crossing, free kicks, long shots, passing, penalty taking, technique, concentration, creativity, decisions, determination, and flair, though I don't know what he could really do with those physical stats.
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Old 01-04-2008, 03:18 AM   Old Players (over 30), Stats and Retires Post #5
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As he said, some positions last longer. GKs obviously last the longest. CBs also last quite long. Gallas for example, at 34, are still top notch.
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Sometimes, your training regime can play a part too, but generally as said defenders & keepers last the longest.

I got Gary Neville to 44 on 07 and he was still my first choice and England first choice right back. He had lost his pace and was down to about 4 or 5 but still had the ability well balanced which regens lacked.

It depends on the position really, CM's who sit and hold the ball in the middle can play with little pace as long as their passing, and relative abilities are good, but you don't want a 35+ year old (generally) on the wings because they will struggle to get past the defenders.

My only complaint is strength is not kept separate, if anything players can become stronger towards the end of their career than before - if you see the worlds strongest men contests etc very few are in their 20's most are late 30's early 40's so it wouldn't be as bad if you could convert your veterans to more beefed up holding players as their days drew to a close.

Some players will naturally age terribly due to various stats, others will be like a fountain of youth.
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Old 01-04-2008, 05:51 PM   Old Players (over 30), Stats and Retires Post #7
 
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I have the opposite problem on my Atletico Save A 37 year Old Henry is still the top goal scorer of the league and always scores against me
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Yeah in my Everton game I bought Riquelme when he had just turned 30 and his stats all fell by one... some of them rose again but the majority stayed down... twas a pity becuase I really bought him for his passing stat of 20.
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